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Tryfgr

@rsmacleod that’s true even if you forget the training plan (in free strava) thats it is important to me, but lets say that i dont need it. So i can do the same with a xiaomi watch or a cheap chinese watch. I do not want to use a 3rd part site. I dont compare movescount with strava, endomondo or even the pathetic sport-tracker. I want to compare movescount with garmin connect and polar flow. As i said before i had garmin for years and i bought suunto even if movescount was a little worst from connect because i was thinking that a serious company will develop their site and it will compete their competitors. My thoughts were completely wrong.

stevena

I sincerely hope there will still be an online platform and not just an app on a smartphone.
I actually really liked mc for making routes.
If I lose the possibility to make POI’s I I will lose some of the functionality for which I bought the watch.
Lets just hope the app gets more powerfull and we’ll get something to work with the watch on a decent size screen…
Should have stayed with polar?

kimbotz

Although a little slow, Movescount is awesome. I love the data, my ability to create and upload routes, I absolutely LOVE documenting my hikes with Suunto Movies, I like having both the app and the ability to use my PC. Some things are just easier to do on the larger screen with a keyboard. It is fantastic to have an app that is not third party and all of the functions I want are right there in one place. I have tried the Suunto App. It’s faster, it’s prettier… it doesn’t come close to the same function of what I’m getting on Movescount. I literally have no reason to stop using Movescount until I’m forced. If we all have to start using this app, at least give us the function. For me, I mostly miss the Suunto movie–I hike a lot, I lead groups and bring newer hikers with me. I really like being able to show a movie from a previous time I hiked and say, “Take a look, this is what to expect.” I have a nice little video library now. I also agree with so much that others have to say. Stay fully functional, practical and all in one place. Perhaps make Movescount just a little faster and we’d all be happy.

estevez

Does any competent person from Suunto / Amer read this topic (forum)? I would appreciate some feedback from Suunto / Amer relating to this topic.

Saketo Nemo

I can see you’re new on this forum. This 3d is made by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos, that works for suunto.
check out his profile https://forum.suunto.com/user/dimitrios-kanellopoulos

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@estevez that is me. You can post here or pm me anytime

estevez

@Saketo-Nemo Thanks.
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Important news concerning our digital services:

I am not the one taking decisions here and I am trying my best to communicate this back and forth.

So still no feedback from Suunto relating to this topic?

be1t0n

As a household that owns 2 x Ambit3 watches the idea that there is to potentially be reduced functionality is a worry. Route planning is a big part of why we bought these models and is something Suunto still actively promotes whilst they remain selling them.

I have also recently ordered a Spartan Ultra. It would be interesting to know what the plan is relating to route planning etc within the Suunto app. Is it likely that they will be linked to the Sports Tracker site and will transfer over? Not a fan of the idea of route planning via a touchscreen.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@estevez What specific topic are you interested in?

Zdeněk Hruška

@be1t0n Hi I know I already wrote it somewhere in this forum before but you can plan the route in any other map service (https://myroutes.io/create) and then import it into your Spartan. You don’t need to do it in the app. I wouldn’t plan the route on a small display in the app as long as I have other choices:) I know it’s not an official Suunto solution but if you really need it (as do I) then there are ways how to do it.

estevez

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos What has been discussing in this topic, i.e. decommission plan for Movescount platform, impacting some watches:

no support for Ambit1/2
significantly less functionalities for Ambit3
no web platform for Suunto app
etc.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@estevez We are at one week after the announcement so I dont have solid news for you.

I can reassure you that these subjects are now on the roadmap to provide an official Suunto reply that will come to you directly.

At the moment, if I could say it in plain words, Suunto is processing all the feedback here.

Apart from me doing reporting and quantifying data, there are also high level personnel looking here as well.

For the moment I dont have any further info but the moment I get I will be replying here.

be1t0n

@Zdeněk-Hruška How does this work with Suunto App though? I know you can import GPX files into movescount via the web interface but as there isn’t one for Suunto App, how is this likely to work?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@be1t0n you download the file from any other app, mobile or web, to your phone, then you open it with Suunto app and it’s there , editable and syncable to the watch

be1t0n

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Bit of a clunky way of doing it compared to the way things work in Movescount (plot route and tick a box to transfer) don’t you think?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@be1t0n it really depends on the user. For example I use GAIA app to get the route from the web (it has a web as well).

So plan on GAIA’s web
Open app
export route to SA

If I had to use MC (not for planning but for improrting a route) I would have:

Plan on GAIA’s web
Open or export GPX from them
Open MC web
Import on MC web
Tick
Open MC app (or sync with cable).

To be honest for people that don’t use MC for Planning I think it’s easier. For the people that only use MC for planning it’s more clunky as you said.

However, perhaps yesterdays example helps.

I went to a friend to go for a run in the Pyrenees. He had the route from Visorando (similar to wikiloc etc here in France). I asked him:

Can you email me the route link ?

He did so.

I did:

Open mail
Go to link
Download GPX
Open with Suunto app.
Synced.

I bet the above with only having my mobile with me, with MC would not have worked at all

estevez

@be1t0n I totally agree. When I was choosing sports watches, web / sw platform was for me very important. I choosed Suunto also because of Movescount platform. I do not want to use 3rd party sw. I paid for Movescount platform when I bought Suunto watches.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@estevez I agree with your words. I also replied to @be1t0n just for showing my workflow atm

ColdBeer

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Pal, this is a simply assertion. I agree mobile is useful for such kind of things, but it’s not so complicated on a desktop computer, and unlike on the phone, once you imported the GPX on movescount you could:

study briefly the route (and check elevation changes)
add POIs to the route, so you could know how to find emergency services, rescue zones and so on
modify the route as you need

Repeating: I will totally agree (and I said it lot of times) with adding features to the mobile app, most we have, more juice we’ll squeeze from our watches. No discussion here. But it’s not mandatory to void desktop features for that.

be1t0n

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I agree with this. I just think it would be an odd choice to force people into using a 3rd party service for this rather than linking it to Sports Tracker or something else linked to Suunto App directly. I know that, personally, I would be keen to keep everything in one place where possible.

Being able to import directly in the app sounds like a nice addition to have for the scenario you mentioned, although I personally have never had need to do that.