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      aiv4r Silver Members @Gunnar
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      @Gunnar AI coach is a rumor based on smth that was temporary on Suunto website, FCC filling is a different thing and it is for hardware, based on that we know Run 2, Race 3 and Race 3S is most likely coming.

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        dreamer_ @matram
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        @matram agree.

        Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.

        The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.

        For example, Polar provides 5 years of support:

        https://support.polar.com/en/supported-polar-products

        And Coros is atill updating the Apex 2 Pro with everything, even their new Climb screens (watch released in 2022):

        https://support.coros.com/hc/en-us/articles/20087492454932-COROS-APEX-2-Pro-Release-Notes

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          2b2bff Silver Members @dreamer_
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          @dreamer_ said:

          Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.

          The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.

          The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.

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            dreamer_ @2b2bff
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            @2b2bff said:

            @dreamer_ said:

            Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.

            The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.

            The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.

            Or perhaps the revenue is a lot more than the cost of maintaining an additional device. That is something that only Suunto will know…

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              withManish Bronze Member @dreamer_
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              @dreamer_ said:

              @2b2bff said:

              @dreamer_ said:

              Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.

              The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.

              The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.

              Or perhaps the revenue is a lot more than the cost of maintaining an additional device. That is something that only Suunto will know…

              It’s not about maintaining additional models; they don’t deliver on their promises. I am okay with them launching a model every 6 months. The problem is they forget to fine-tune real issues. With every software update, they introduce a new set of bugs, and they don’t look at them or totally ignore them.

              For example, most of us have complaints about battery performance issues that go unaddressed, which is critical compared to the heartbeat (just an example).

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                dreamer_ @withManish
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                @withManish said:

                @dreamer_ said:

                @2b2bff said:

                @dreamer_ said:

                Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.

                The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.

                The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.

                Or perhaps the revenue is a lot more than the cost of maintaining an additional device. That is something that only Suunto will know…

                It’s not about maintaining additional models; they don’t deliver on their promises. I am okay with them launching a model every 6 months. The problem is they forget to fine-tune real issues. With every software update, they introduce a new set of bugs, and they don’t look at them or totally ignore them.

                For example, most of us have complaints about battery performance issues that go unaddressed, which is critical compared to the heartbeat (just an example).

                To be completely honest, I personally had that same impression with the previous generation and again with this one regarding updates—especially with this Q2 release, which strikes me as rather underwhelming given the high expectations, particularly concerning the much-discussed navigation feedback. I don’t know if they’ve been focusing on new devices or what the reason is, but that is purely my own perception. It is understandable how frustrating it is to wait months for something like the Q2, only to receive an update that not only leaves previous-generation watches behind but also leaves the latest generation fixes in limbo—forcing you to think you’ll have to wait months all over again.
                I also believe that seeking higher profits shouldn’t mean neglecting to bolster your teams to address development shortcomings. In fact, higher profits should provide more financial margin to increase the development team resources.

                Regarding AI, Coros has coincidentally been working on an MCP connector in recent updates, allowing any AI to connect directly to Coros without relying on third-party platforms—a direct, free connection. Suunto should take note of this; if they truly intend to charge for AI-based training features, having a competitor offer this for free would reflect very poorly on Suunto.

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                  isazi Moderator @dreamer_
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                  @dreamer_ said:
                  Regarding AI, Coros has coincidentally been working on an MCP connector in recent updates, allowing any AI to connect directly to Coros without relying on third-party platforms—a direct, free connection. Suunto should take note of this; if they truly intend to charge for AI-based training features, having a competitor offer this for free would reflect very poorly on Suunto.

                  Suunto China has already open MCP, had it before Coros.

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                    dreamer_ @isazi
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                    @isazi said:

                    @dreamer_ said:
                    Regarding AI, Coros has coincidentally been working on an MCP connector in recent updates, allowing any AI to connect directly to Coros without relying on third-party platforms—a direct, free connection. Suunto should take note of this; if they truly intend to charge for AI-based training features, having a competitor offer this for free would reflect very poorly on Suunto.

                    Suunto China has already open MCP, had it before Coros.

                    Keep in mind that the comment is based on the subscription information that was “found” on the Suunto website. For the time being, the MCP connector is only available on Coros devices globally.

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                      isazi Moderator @dreamer_
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                      @dreamer_ I do not comment on leaks and rumors, I was talking about this https://mcp.suunto.cn/mcpguide

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                      Blog: isazi's home

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                        Wilson75 @dreamer_
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                        @dreamer_ vertical 1 released in may 2023…no update since Q4-2025 update (new features).

                        I still have not got over it… it will take some times. People will say fixed bug will be released OK / there is hardware limitation for vertical 1 OK
                        but I expect longer lifetime for receiving feature for a watch cost me 800eur.
                        As you mentioned Coros provided new climb screens for watch released in 2022…

                        watching new watch release from couch now and enjoy my lovelly vertical 1

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                          Richard Thygesen @Wilson75
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                          @Wilson75 why do you buy stuff with expectations of new features?

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                            Wilson75 @Richard Thygesen
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                            @Richard-Thygesen speciallly Navigation and maps features introduced in Q1 release and New offline map labels introduced in Q2.

                            The rest is nice to have.

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                            S9B Titanium (sold)
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                              Mads Hintz-Madsen Silver Members @Richard Thygesen
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                              @Richard-Thygesen said:

                              @Wilson75 why do you buy stuff with expectations of new features?

                              This is 2026 - not 1996.

                              This is the norm these days and if the competition is providing new features then so shall Suunto if they want to compete.

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                                aiv4r Silver Members @Mads Hintz-Madsen
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                                @Mads-Hintz-Madsen That is why some of us want to get back to 1996, where our devices are not getting enshitified over the time.

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