Losing faith on the S9 (treadmill & HR) latest firmware
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In my case instead of improving with every update things are getting worse (but hopefully will imrove again)
I have two issues with the S9 and the latest firmware
1- when running on the treadmill after the recent firmware update I get serious diffence between the watch and the treadmill (measured on two different treadmills)
First case 3.4k on the watch - 4.6k on the treadmill. Second case, this morning 5.53k S9 - 8k on the treadmill. huge difference. with the previous firmware the difference was 100m to 200m on a 10k run. Is there a calibration option? went through the menus but did not see something.
This is highly annoying since at the moment (and the next few months) the majority of my training is done a treadmill.
2- OHR problem (which has not been touched on this firmware) and discussed on other post the OHR needs 8-10minutes to start measuring properly.
Hoping on a new firmware soon that will solve these problems. This is poor performance of the flaship watch making me have second thoughts on being an early adopter (since I cant do much to improve suuntos develpoment speed or quality).
Was really happy with my spartan ultra.
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@nassosc getting accurate wrist data for distance on a treadmill is likely not possible. Only a footpod will be accurate. Treadmills are notoriously inaccurate as well so be careful how you make comparisons.
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@Brad_Olwin I understand that but my surprise is that I had excellent results before. With the same watch and the spartan. Not 20-25% difference.
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Had a talk to my coach today and he confrimed that the treadmills are calibrated.
Did a 15k run and the S9 logged 9.89k!Will try to downgrade the firmware
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@nassosc Need to have @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos check on this. Should not have been worse. Can you confirm that GPS is off?
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@Brad_Olwin yes gps is off.
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Do some running with GPS outside and it will calibrate accelerometer. Because every update wipes calibrated data.
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@SlaSh said in Losing faith on the S9 (treadmill & HR) latest firmware:
Do some running with GPS outside and it will calibrate accelerometer. Because every update wipes calibrated data.
Right.
The problem is, that you need some technical background to explain the behavior of the watch…
And even then there is a lot of guessing about the functions happening in the background.
Why not add an indicator in the watch information about if calibration für walking or running has been completed? Just two flags should not be too difficult to add.Or a warning when starting a run w/o GPS, that the accelerometer has not yet been calibrated.
Or at least a hint in the manual.
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@SlaSh unfortunatly I have done a run with the GPS, actually it was the run before the 3 horrible treadmill runs. Will do another one since my options are limited. Thank you.
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There was nothing touched regarding the accelerometer. Try to reflash the FW or reset
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Did a FW reset and a GPS run and accelerometer seems to be calibrated. Just to set the record straight…
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@SlaSh said in Losing faith on the S9 (treadmill & HR) latest firmware:
Do some running with GPS outside and it will calibrate accelerometer. Because every update wipes calibrated data.
I’m curious, am I reading this right that if you update the watch, the calibration data for indoor distance, etc is wiped, and you must again do the run outside to recalibrate before it’s accurate indoors again?
'Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty … rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”.
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@oeagleo I have updated the watch several times before in the past and callibration was not needed. Not sure it was a bad update (if that is possible) or it just needed calibrating.
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@oeagleo watch update is clearing cached data as accelerometer calibration profile and other, so you need to do activity with GPS to get it calibrated again. This is nothing new Farmin watched act the same after upgrade.
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@nassosc and how treadmill distance and etc looks like now?
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@slash treadmill distance is correct now.
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@nassosc what solved it ?
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not sure, did a watch reset and a gps run. after that the treadmill distance was again ok
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I totally agree with you…
I am 45 years old…y I was sustaining 219 BPM for more than 20 min at the beginning of my work out…
Incredible… or I am a SuperHuman
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@Marcel-Baliño its all the good training! well i get the same error and after about 8-10min it drops to normal levels. As far as I know it is problem with the sensor software that some encounter and it will most probably be fixed in the next update.
