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    BUG: OHR sensor crashes with non-ideal skin conditions (hair, dirt, small tattoo marks)

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    • EgikaE Online
      Egika Platinum Member @Manuel Extreme
      last edited by

      @Manuel-Extreme off wrist detection is not contact based, but somehow optical.
      From here on I have no more ideas, sorry.

      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Titanium, S9PP Titanium, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S Titanium Courtney, Run Lime, Race 2, Vertical 2 Titanium

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      • Manuel ExtremeM Offline
        Manuel Extreme Silver Members
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        This is the Vertical 1 sensor: it has been like this for 4 hours and has never turned off.
        The Vertical 2 sensor: if it reads the signal incorrectly for 10 seconds, it shuts down until you intervene manually.
        There’s no point in downvoting (-1) every time I report the issue. I will keep doing it until it’s resolved.

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        Vertical 2 v2.56.18

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        • EgikaE Online
          Egika Platinum Member @Manuel Extreme
          last edited by

          @Manuel-Extreme this will not just be “resolved”
          Try placing your watch on a white/black/glossy/matte/etc surface and you will notice different behavior.
          In your example the watch thinks it is on your wrist and trying hard to detect your pulse ☺️

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          • dreamer_D Offline
            dreamer_ @Egika
            last edited by dreamer_

            Personally, I’m having the issues detailed here:

            https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15053/i-m-experiencing-an-issue-with-the-optical-heart-rate-ohr-sensor-on-my-suunto-vertical-2/4

            In my opinion:

            • 22 milimeter wrist band is not enough for the Vertical 2 and Race 2. Suunto should go back to (at least) the 24mm bands in their next big watches (like Coros does with the Nomad and the Apex 4).

            • I think software algorythms are not clever enough with noise filtering when sweat or arm movements. I’m saying this because I had exactly the same issue with the previous Suunto watches and despite the different sensor.

            • OHR measuring works perfectly for me in both Garmin and Coros.

            In Amazfit I have something very weird. In my left hand I have cadence lock but in my right hand OHR works perfectly.

            No tattoos, no hair. The only thing is that I have low BPM while resting (that can be considered bradicardia).
            My issue is exactly the same as detailed here and my profile very similar to that one (so, I’m not the only one): https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/1on5qly/vertical_2_heart_rate_monitor_problem_not/

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              elbee @Manuel Extreme
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              @Manuel-Extreme said in BUG: OHR sensor crashes with non-ideal skin conditions (hair, dirt, small tattoo marks):

              Expected result
              The OHR sensor should continue providing heart rate readings, even if signal quality is reduced. It should not shut down or stop recording data.

              Not my expected result. I rather have no data than incorrect data.

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              • Manuel ExtremeM Offline
                Manuel Extreme Silver Members @elbee
                last edited by

                @elbee Do you really think 10 seconds of inferred data are better than 6 hours of no data?

                Vertical 2 v2.56.18

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                  elbee @Manuel Extreme
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                  @Manuel-Extreme

                  You assume 6 hours of missing data was of perfect quality. And your demand was that it should always record data, regardless the quality. That last part I disagree with you.

                  And my personal, and therefore not very relevant, opinion: missed 6 hours of heart rate data? Not a big deal.

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                  • Manuel ExtremeM Offline
                    Manuel Extreme Silver Members @elbee
                    last edited by

                    @elbee If I didn’t want heart rate, I’d have bought a Casio.

                    Maybe you didn’t read the post: the problem is that the OHR turns off without warning and doesn’t turn back on until you take the watch off your wrist.

                    Vertical 2 v2.56.18

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                      elbee @Manuel Extreme
                      last edited by elbee

                      @Manuel-Extreme

                      There are 3 things
                      Should the the watch always record data even if it can determine the data is incorrect? No

                      Should suunto look into crashes? Yes

                      Am I less concerned with loosing some heart rate data than you? Yes.

                      My original reply is about the first point. But since it is an important point for you I will no longer capture your topic.

                      (Btw, I was not able to reproduce your steps on my race 2, so it could be model specific)

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                      • Manuel ExtremeM Offline
                        Manuel Extreme Silver Members
                        last edited by

                        It seems that this update has fixed the bug. The OHR sensor has remained active for 24 hours without switching off.

                        Vertical 2 v2.56.18

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