Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?

[elbee]

Sebastian Sawe ran a marathon in 1:59:31 wearing a watch with a mip display.

End of discussion, I guess

[MiniForklift]

I turn 50 next year and have noticed a decline in my eyesight over the last couple of years. Nothing too bad, mainly just with focusing and needing to read things at a further distance away so it’s not blurred. I’m still on my V1 which I’ve had for 3 years, still no issues at all with legibility and I don’t struggle to read anything whilst I’m running on road or trails. I do a lot of running in the dark and I find the display with the backlight fantastic; I don’t have a V2 to use as a reference point, but one of my training partners has an AMOLED (Garmin). It is simply way too bright for me, so maybe there’s a degree of personal preference with AMOLED versus MIP

[VoiGAS]

Bought a used Vertical1 after having problems with the RaceS AMOLED in the sun.
Vertical is a lot better in the Sun, Race S “From dusk till dawn” and indoor.
I’ll keep both, switching watches is quite easy in the App.

But I think AMOLED could completely replace MIP with better adaptive reactions to movement and sunlight. Max brightness is good already on RaceS

[safari]

@VoiGAS I still haven’t sold my Vertical 1.
It’s doing well compared to Vertical 2.
The sun’s contribution to charging is 5% under my conditions.
Vertical 2 finds satellites much faster in wooded areas.
The only downside is that my battery consumption is higher compared to Vertical 1.

[elbee]

@VoiGAS said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?:

But I think AMOLED could completely replace MIP with better adaptive reactions to movement and sunlight. Max brightness is good already on RaceS

Amoled will completely replace Mip. Mainly for commercial reasons. They sell way better.

There is a small (but loud) group who prefer mips because of readability in direct sunlight, battery usage and/or real always on display without any delays in turning on or needing a wrist gesture. (I’m in this group)

Some people find amoled better readable. Most have either had a sapphire mip display or have a gazillion datafields on their watch. For their use they have a valid point.

But the biggest group just find mip displays looking old fashioned and prefer a shiny gadget. So they buy an amoled watch

[VoiGAS]

@MiniForklift Good point - enabling backlight on the Vertical 1 should solve the issues in the shadows I guess. Just always forgetting to do it…

[cosme.costa]

@VoiGAS Because the solution is raise to “iluminate” only in activities. Older watches used to have it and the old S5P still has it. I’ve been and continue asking for this until I get it or change the watch

[VoiGAS]

@cosme.costa Yes, I am also struggling with the settings. It is available on the RaceS, but not on the Vertical 1. I am suprised and confused…

So not really a solution so far. Its possible to “enable” backlight on the V1, whatever that means. Always on, adaptive to the sun? But then the battery lifetime is cut in a half(!)

Edit: I think I found it. In the general display settings there is a “Standby” option. This enables adaptive backlight for activities - and unfortunately also for Watchface usage. @cosme.costa I now understand what you mean…

[freeheeler]

@elbee said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?:
(I’m in this group)

welcome to this group

[sky-runner]

@VoiGAS said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?:

But I think AMOLED could completely replace MIP with better adaptive reactions to movement and sunlight. Max brightness is good already on RaceS

The market thinks otherwise. The supply of MIP is dwindling because there is not enough demand, and as I understand currently there are only one or two producers of small round MIP displays for watches.

Another problem with MIP is that displays are thicker and require a wider bezel, which is not what most customers want.