Offline Maps and Routing in Suunto App

Stefano M64

I had problems in downloading the map of the region where I stay (Lazio, Italy) it seems to me the part of that map that is already cached (around my city, Rome) conflicts with the downloading of the map of the whole region. At first is looks that the map has been downloaded, but as soon as I put the smartphone in airplane mode and clear the SA cache, the map disappears even if it is listed among the downloaded maps (both watch and mobile icons). To solve the problem I had to delete the (ghost) downloaded app and download it again.
the offline routing doesn’t work for me, I just get a strait line between point A and B …

Wilson75

@Stefano-M64
For the point 1)
I had the same issue putting airplane mode after downloading the map. To solve this issue I significantly zoom out and zoom in.

Stefano M64

@Wilson75 said in Offline Maps and Routing in Suunto App:

@Stefano-M64
For the point 1)
To solve this issue I significantly zoom out and zoom in.

that didn’t worked for me

Stefano M64

OK! I found the culprit, in order to have the offline routing the user must switch to one of the three offline map styles

Stefano M64

it would be way better if in case of missing data connection the offline routing is automatically selected

pavel.samokha

@Stefano-M64 we decided that it’s better to have explicit control for various reasons. A few of them:

Online and offline data are different, it’s not good to mix neither the style nor navigation with different type of data.
If connection available or not is tricky to detect. Connection can be intermittent, or available but super slow. It’s more reliable to control it explicitly. In my personal experience it’s super frustrating when app switches online/offline unpredictably.
Even while having a data connection I might want to use offline map and routing. For example if I’m abroad in expensive roaming network, while I downloaded offline maps in advance
Offline and online routing engines are different. We tried to align them feature-wise, but they can produce different results. You may prefer one or another.

sky-runner

@pavel.samokha This is great! Now we need the low limit for the number of routes on the watch to be lifted so that we can always start navigation on the watch from the app.

This is especially important considering that routes tend to somehow reappear on the watch after they have been removed on the app. Perhaps that is a result of syncing multiple watches.

sky-runner

@pavel.samokha I’ve downloaded some offline maps and looked at them. The rendering seems to closely resemble what we see on the watch.

My main critique of all 3 map themes that are available offline is the same critique that I had about the offline watch maps - trails in forested areas are rendered using low contrast color combinations - dark green on light green for light maps, light green on dark green for dark maps, and very light almost invisible grey on white for winter maps. I understand that winter maps are intended for winter sports, so perhaps hiding trails was intentional, but consider backcountry skiing on snowshoeing where activities often follow summer trails.

I’m comparison, online winter maps offer the best contrast and legibility of all map styles!

pavel.samokha

@sky-runner styles are indeed based on watch ones and suboptimal. We’ll need to improve them, feedback is welcome

Egika

@sky-runner said in Offline Maps and Routing in Suunto App:

@pavel.samokha This is great! Now we need the low limit for the number of routes on the watch to be lifted so that we can always start navigation on the watch from the app.

This is especially important considering that routes tend to somehow reappear on the watch after they have been removed on the app. Perhaps that is a result of syncing multiple watches.

I also don’t understand the limit, but for me it is not really an issue. You can always switch off and on the routes on the watch.