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      isaac.net @isaac.net
      last edited by isaac.net

      said in Race 2 accuracy:

      Hello,
      On the 24th, I conducted some tests, first on a practically straight route, and then on a route in the same area with hills and curves. My hypothesis that the Race 2 is incorrectly processing the recorded points was confirmed. The straight route is marked every 500 meters; it was 4.04 km according to the Race 2 and 4.05 km according to the track, measuring almost exactly during the activity. During the activity with curves, the problem returned, subtracting 80 meters from the total: 4.00 km according to the Race 2 and 4.08 km according to the track.

      I’ve attached some screenshots that I will send to Suunto support:
      Captura de pantalla 2026-04-27 085958.jpg
      Captura de pantalla 2026-04-27 090132.jpg

      I encourage you to conduct these tests and also send them to Suunto (support@suunto.com). It’s the only way they’ll take the issue seriously. If this problem is widely known, I doubt Suunto will sell another Race 2 at its current price.

      Regards.

      I used the program with the track with curves that I uploaded in a previous post (removing the final section that was off the track). It confirms my suspicion that Race 2 doesn’t have accuracy problems in data capture; it’s an error in processing (software).

      Only 1.51m of drift on the 2-lap circuit with curves, asphalt, and clear skies:

      Gemini Smart Track Drift v23 ---------> START
      Autonomous Mode (Method 1). Treatment: 2026-04-24_curvo.gpx…

      **REPORT FOR: 2026-04-24_curvo.gpx (METHOD 1)
      Parameters: 3 min / 40 m
      Total distance: 3698.0 m
      Comparison distance: 3698.0 m
      Number of samples: 1067

      AVERAGE DRIFT: 1.51 m**

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      • CHRGBRC Offline
        CHRGBR
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        Hello,
        I can confirm my R2 shows always a litte shorter distance than my Ambit 3 (about 1%). This is not a tragedy but a software fix would be appreciated

        Race 2
        Previously : 9 baro, Spartan sport, Ambit 3

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          aiv4r Silver Members @isaac.net
          last edited by aiv4r

          @isaac.net I get that 🙂 was just wondering if Suunto added artificial cut of distance for masses, that usually run more than actual race distance. (mostly road, since trail folks usually do not care that much about ±400meters).

          Suunto Race 2 (Titanium Trail)
          Suunto Vertical (Titanium Solar Forest)

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          • EgikaE Offline
            Egika Platinum Member @Egika
            last edited by

            said in Race 2 accuracy:

            @isaac.net sorry, you are on the wrong track.
            While probably everything might theoretically be solvable by software, I doubt that Suunto is going to invest a lot into this one. But who knows…

            I have to stand corrected. Seems Suunto is indeed investing into this one 🙂

            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Titanium, S9PP Titanium, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S Titanium Courtney, Run Lime, Race 2, Vertical 2 Titanium

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              sky-runner Platinum Member @CHRGBR
              last edited by sky-runner

              @CHRGBR said in Race 2 accuracy:

              Hello,
              I can confirm my R2 shows always a litte shorter distance than my Ambit 3 (about 1%). This is not a tragedy but a software fix would be appreciated

              Comparing against Ambit 3 isn’t as straightforward as it may seem. For example, when running on deeply forested trails in my area Ambit 3 was always 3-5% shorter (less accurate) than modern Suunto watches.

              Suunto: Ambit, Ambit 3 Peak, 9 Baro, Race S, Race Ti, Vertical 2 Ti
              Garmin: Forerunner 210, Forerunner 610, Fenix 6X, Fenix 7X Ti

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              • JoaquinJ Offline
                Joaquin Moderator
                last edited by Joaquin

                Thanks for your feedback — it helps us improve with every update.
                We hear you, and we act on it.

                Your feedback is extremely valuable, and our team continues working on GPS accuracy improvements and optimization through future firmware updates 😉

                IMG_4592.jpeg IMG_4582.jpeg

                Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                  jjpaz Bronze Member @Joaquin
                  last edited by

                  @Joaquin Thanks!! 👏🏻👏🏻

                  Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race 2 Ti & Suunto Wing.

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                    dreamer_ @Joaquin
                    last edited by dreamer_

                    @Joaquin this is excellent news. Thank you so much!!

                    Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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                    • JoaquinJ Offline
                      Joaquin Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @jjpaz @dreamer_ Interesting test

                      F5AA5DD0-460B-480A-9362-F27E3B5CFA15.png

                      This test was performed on a very short and technical mountain loop under dense tree canopy.

                      Loop characteristics:
                      • Wheel measured distance: 497 m

                      IMG_4655.jpeg

                      • Total laps: 11
                      • Expected real distance: 5.467 km
                      • Clockwise direction
                      • Dense forest coverage
                      • Repeated technical turns including one ~180° hairpin and two additional closed turns
                      The loop contains:
                      • Curve 1 → ~180° hairpin
                      • Curve 2 → ~90° closed turn
                      • Curve 3 → ~85° closed turn

                      These repeated direction changes make this route extremely demanding for GNSS filtering and track reconstruction.

                      One important detail:
                      all watches were worn in different wrist positions, so small variations are completely normal. Watches placed slightly higher on the arm usually record slightly more distance due to arm swing and antenna orientation.

                      IMG_4654.jpeg
                      Results:

                      • COROS Apex 4 → 5.37 km (-1.8%)
                      • Suunto Race 2 → 5.36 km (-2.0%)
                      • Suunto Vertical 2 → 5.33 km (-2.5%)
                      • Garmin 970 → 5.30 km (-3.1%)
                      • Amazfit T-Rex Pro 3 → 5.14 km (-6.0%)

                      A very interesting detail appeared when comparing GNSS raw distance vs filtered activity distance.

                      This is where you can clearly see the work of each brand’s algorithms trying to reconstruct the “real” trajectory under dense canopy conditions.

                      GNSS Distance represents the raw satellite accumulation, while Distance is the final filtered value after each brand applies its own correction, smoothing and trajectory reconstruction algorithms.

                      The most impressive result here was the Suunto Vertical 2:
                      • 5.33 km GNSS Distance
                      • 5.33 km final Distance

                      An almost perfect match between raw GNSS data and filtered output, showing extremely confident trajectory processing in this test.

                      COROS and Suunto Race 2 also stayed very close between raw and filtered values, while Garmin showed a more aggressive correction approach:
                      • 5.44 km raw GNSS
                      • corrected down to 5.30 km final distance

                      IMG_8659.jpeg

                      With the exception of the Amazfit, the distance difference between the other four devices is completely normal considering the different wrist positions and the extremely difficult GNSS conditions during the test.

                      ENJOY!!!

                      Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                        isaac.net @Joaquin
                        last edited by

                        @Joaquin Thank you very much for your testing efforts. Is the software version used the same one available to users?

                        On the other hand, it’s good that the watch performs well when making corrections under extreme conditions, but it would be important to focus on what’s being discussed in this thread, where the correction causes errors under ideal conditions, which I believe is the most common scenario for a Race 2 user, and where the result should be perfect after the corrections.

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                          Joaquin Moderator @isaac.net
                          last edited by Joaquin

                          @isaac.net not, working on it 😉 of course, we must do more and more Tets but looks promising

                          Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                            jjpaz Bronze Member @Joaquin
                            last edited by

                            @Joaquin said in Race 2 accuracy:

                            @jjpaz @dreamer_ Interesting test

                            F5AA5DD0-460B-480A-9362-F27E3B5CFA15.png

                            This test was performed on a very short and technical mountain loop under dense tree canopy.

                            Loop characteristics:
                            • Wheel measured distance: 497 m

                            IMG_4655.jpeg

                            • Total laps: 11
                            • Expected real distance: 5.467 km
                            • Clockwise direction
                            • Dense forest coverage
                            • Repeated technical turns including one ~180° hairpin and two additional closed turns
                            The loop contains:
                            • Curve 1 → ~180° hairpin
                            • Curve 2 → ~90° closed turn
                            • Curve 3 → ~85° closed turn

                            These repeated direction changes make this route extremely demanding for GNSS filtering and track reconstruction.

                            One important detail:
                            all watches were worn in different wrist positions, so small variations are completely normal. Watches placed slightly higher on the arm usually record slightly more distance due to arm swing and antenna orientation.

                            IMG_4654.jpeg
                            Results:

                            • COROS Apex 4 → 5.37 km (-1.8%)
                            • Suunto Race 2 → 5.36 km (-2.0%)
                            • Suunto Vertical 2 → 5.33 km (-2.5%)
                            • Garmin 970 → 5.30 km (-3.1%)
                            • Amazfit T-Rex Pro 3 → 5.14 km (-6.0%)

                            A very interesting detail appeared when comparing GNSS raw distance vs filtered activity distance.

                            This is where you can clearly see the work of each brand’s algorithms trying to reconstruct the “real” trajectory under dense canopy conditions.

                            GNSS Distance represents the raw satellite accumulation, while Distance is the final filtered value after each brand applies its own correction, smoothing and trajectory reconstruction algorithms.

                            The most impressive result here was the Suunto Vertical 2:
                            • 5.33 km GNSS Distance
                            • 5.33 km final Distance

                            An almost perfect match between raw GNSS data and filtered output, showing extremely confident trajectory processing in this test.

                            COROS and Suunto Race 2 also stayed very close between raw and filtered values, while Garmin showed a more aggressive correction approach:
                            • 5.44 km raw GNSS
                            • corrected down to 5.30 km final distance

                            IMG_8659.jpeg

                            With the exception of the Amazfit, the distance difference between the other four devices is completely normal considering the different wrist positions and the extremely difficult GNSS conditions during the test.

                            ENJOY!!!

                            @Joaquin Impressive work! Thanks!

                            Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race 2 Ti & Suunto Wing.

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                              isaac.net @Joaquin
                              last edited by

                              @Joaquin great, thank you so much!

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                                dreamer_ @jjpaz
                                last edited by dreamer_

                                I can’t confirm the Race 2 now but I’m posting this because I can confirm the Vertical 2 in the track I was talking here:

                                https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15071/several-navigation-issues-feedback/39

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                                f5e59d50-bb6e-4933-9e7f-c006b04eeddc-image.png

                                All watches in exactly the very same wrist position, but different days. It’s pretty interesting to see how I’m having so similar distances considering I’m running in different days. But in the other hand, it’s a track I know really well. There’s road but trail with several tree zones with dense forest.

                                Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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