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    Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes

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    • OutdoorManO Offline
      OutdoorMan Silver Members @EzioAuditore
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      @EzioAuditore Interesting 🙂 I just did that and my schedule already was set to 22:00 - 8:00, but let’s see what happens 🙂

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        Sportsfreund Bronze Member @OutdoorMan
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        @OutdoorMan I always get mine after I’ve turned off my alarm and gone to the bathroom. I usually get up at 4:45, even though the clock is also set to sleep mode from 10 PM to 8 AM. I only have that enabled so the display doesn’t keep turning on at night.

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          OutdoorMan Silver Members @Sportsfreund
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          @Sportsfreund I don’t understand German and I am not going to translate it, sorry.

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          • OutdoorManO Offline
            OutdoorMan Silver Members @EzioAuditore
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            @EzioAuditore So it seems to be working. Thanks for the hint, helped a lot 🙂

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              Sportsfreund Bronze Member @OutdoorMan
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              @OutdoorMan My browser does that automatically. Sorry.

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              • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                EzioAuditore Gold Members @OutdoorMan
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                @OutdoorMan Cool. You’re most welcome.

                Suunto watches: Race 2 (Titanium Trail), Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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                • ElmiuelE Offline
                  Elmiuel
                  last edited by Elmiuel

                  Hello. Is anyone else having trouble with their Vertical 2 and the advanced heart rate zones for different sports? When I adjust the maximum heart rate for cycling (since it’s lower for that sport), it affects the maximum heart rate for other sports (default, running, etc.), even without selecting the option to update the maximum heart rate after the suggestion message appears.
                  I’ve consulted the manual, and while it explains the function, it doesn’t seem to work. I don’t know if anyone else has reported this issue… I’m using SFTW version 2.50.26; I didn’t notice this problem in any previous version after adjusting the thresholds.
                  Also published in Vertical 2 general discussion…
                  EDIT: For now… I’m not modifying the maximum heart rate while cycling, so it doesn’t alter the other zone programs.

                  Sunnto Race Titanium

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                    Squirrel Silver Members @Elmiuel
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                    @Elmiuel said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

                    When I adjust the maximum heart rate for cycling (since it’s lower for that sport)

                    It is not lower for any sport. There is only one maximum HR.

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                    • ElmiuelE Offline
                      Elmiuel @Squirrel
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                      @Squirrel
                      I understand that you ride your bike not just for leisure…
                      Just imagine you’re carrying your weight while running…
                      In my last lab test on the bike, my heart rate was 15 beats per minute lower than during a run, but oh well, it’s just my body.

                      Sunnto Race Titanium

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                        Squirrel Silver Members @Elmiuel
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                        @Elmiuel said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

                        In my last lab test on the bike, my heart rate was 15 beats per minute lower than during a run

                        When your HR was 15 beats lower, then you were not able to reach your true HR max while cycling.
                        If you have bike lab results, then set your LT1 as top of zone 2, LT2 as top of zone 4 and leave max HR at a true universal value.

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                        • DrSilverthornD Offline
                          DrSilverthorn @Squirrel
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                          @Squirrel HRMax is different for each sport, if you want to have the best estimate of training load. Ideally Suunto should accommodate that, but they do not. So while you only have one highest HRMax, for purposes of computing training load and zones, ideally it should be done on the basis of a separate HRmax for each sport.

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                            Sportsfreund Bronze Member @DrSilverthorn
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                            @DrSilverthorn „ In comparison to running or rowing, cycling uses less muscle, so local muscle fatigue usually occurs before cardiopulmonary exhaustion.“

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                            • hooramH Offline
                              hooram
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                              This Q4 2025 Suunto update looks huge! The multisport focus is impressive—automatic transitions for Triathlon and SwimRun, circular multisport, and the new ZoneSense features will make training so much smoother. I also love the per-sport persistent settings and the improved optical HR algorithms—it should finally feel closer to chest strap accuracy. The navigation and sensor improvements are a nice touch too, and the demo mode is perfect for in-store use. Overall, seems like a solid upgrade for both casual and serious athletes.

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                              • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @DrSilverthorn
                                last edited by Brad_Olwin

                                @DrSilverthorn I completely disagree! Zones will change for sports but HR Max is a single value, period! This is physiology.

                                Vector/T6c/Vertical 2 Ti

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                                  maszop Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                                  I managed to initially test the new software in relatively poor weather. Calculating elevation gain in moderate winds finally worked very well. At least, during moderate winds.

                                  And as I mentioned earlier, none of the bugs I’ve been reporting on for many updates have been fixed. Specifically, the inability to change routes during ascent/descent, the crazy breadcrumb, and the occasional lack of updating of the current position on the map.

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                                  • ElmiuelE Offline
                                    Elmiuel
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi everyone, thanks for your input. I’ll enter my maximum heart rate achieved in both sports, but I’ll configure different ranges for each discipline since certain muscles or physical qualities are more involved. Thanks for your contributions.

                                    Sunnto Race Titanium

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                                    • DrSilverthornD Offline
                                      DrSilverthorn @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by

                                      @Brad_Olwin go back and read my original post. We are in violent agreement. That being said, using a single HRmax value for purposes of training load computation, when using multiple sports is suboptimal, and IMO ‘wrong’.

                                      Suunto Race Ti, Vertical Ti, Vertical 2 Ti, Garmin Enduro 1/2, Polar VV2

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                                      • VoiGASV Offline
                                        VoiGAS Gold Members @DrSilverthorn
                                        last edited by

                                        @DrSilverthorn Its not the HRmax that is used for Training Load in my experience, its the zones - especially the thresholds. And those you can set per sport


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                                          BastMaSVSRS9PP Bronze Member @DrSilverthorn
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                                          @DrSilverthorn agreed.

                                          Heart-rate–based training load metrics rely on normalizing effort relative to a reference such as maximum heart rate, implicitly assuming that a given percentage of HRmax represents a comparable level of physiological stress. In reality, HRmax is sport-dependent, varying with muscle mass involved, body position, contraction type, and neuromuscular recruitment; most athletes reach higher maxima in running than in cycling or other seated sports. Applying a single HRmax across multiple sports therefore misaligns intensity zones, systematically under- or over-estimating load for at least one activity and biasing cumulative metrics like weekly or chronic training load. This error is not random but structural, making cross-sport load comparisons unreliable and increasing the risk of hidden fatigue. For multi-sport training, sport-specific HRmax values or preferably sport-specific thresholds are required for physiologically defensible load estimation.

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