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      Squirrel Silver Members @maszop
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      @maszop

      Measuring HRV alone is pointless because the data itself is useless.

      Agreed, HRV in isolation. But nobody said it is used in isolation to calculate resources.

      What’s needed is a trend based on repeated measurements under repeated conditions. That is, at night.

      You already got that in the HRV widget you posted above and also in the app, where you can look at long term trends and history. So what are you trying to suggest here regarding resources?

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        aiv4r Silver Members @maszop
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        @maszop correct, but my assumption would be that Suunto as everybody else have added HRV during the day also since they added Stress measurment in Resources. Do not have any proof of that, but I doubt they only use HR to calculate that.

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          maszop Bronze Member @aiv4r
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          @aiv4r Your assumption is based on what?

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          • Manuel ExtremeM Offline
            Manuel Extreme @maszop
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            @maszop Why do you keep insisting on answering with certainty about things you don’t actually know?

            Stress scores are typically measured using HRV and HR, including during the day under optimal conditions.
            That’s certainly how Firstbeat algorithms work.

            Does Suunto do it? According to its in-app documentation, yes

            The study confirms that other sport Watch Firstbeat based primarily uses HRV (with HR as a supporting signal) to derive the stress score.
            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12647429/

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              maszop Bronze Member @Manuel Extreme
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              @Manuel-Extreme
              You can’t get precise data from the watch’s OHR throughout the day – data that would let you reliably determine HRV and spot trends.
              Garmin churns out hundreds of ridiculous statistics; half of them might as well come from a random number generator.

              https://forum.suunto.com/topic/14697/armband-and-zonesense

              During sleep, you move your hand very little, skin temperature remains relatively stable, and blood flow is more consistent, making this type of measurement relatively easy for optical heart rate (OHR) sensors.

              And apart from the measurement problem during the day, there are also hundreds of factors that affect the body, that affect HRV, and have nothing to do with recovery.

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                Manuel Extreme @maszop
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                @maszop You keep writing your own interpretations that have little to do with reality. But that’s fine, I won’t insist, because I understand that I could bring all the documents and data, and you would still remain faithful to your own ideas without giving value to the topic

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                  maszop Bronze Member @Manuel Extreme
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                  @Manuel-Extreme Find one place where Suunto says it uses HRV during the day for Regeneration and Resources. For now, you’re creating some kind of alternative reality.

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                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @maszop
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                    @maszop Screenshot comes! One Moment please

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                      GiPFELKiND Silver Members @maszop
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                      @maszop here you have the answer. Sure suunto uses HRV for Ressourcen Management in day conditions.
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                        aiv4r Silver Members @maszop
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                        @maszop based on the description under resources. The screenshot is already here in the thread. I agree with you that it does not makes sense, but Suunto also sometimes does things that do not make a lot of sense 🙂

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                          2b2bff Silver Members @maszop
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                          @maszop said in Vertical 2 resources:

                          During sleep, you move your hand very little, skin temperature remains relatively stable, and blood flow is more consistent, making this type of measurement relatively easy for optical heart rate (OHR) sensors.

                          I guess therefore it is only used by resources in the “inactive” section…

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