Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion

Egika

@Jan-Suchánek you are talking about the Race 1 battery here?
Maybe better in a different thread, as this one is about Vertical 2.

Manuel Extreme

When will Suunto add the “Vertical 2” section to support, to at least have a record of updates and their contents?
My Vertical 2 has fw: 2.46.12 but what updates and fixes does it contain?
On the support site:
Vertical 1 shows 2.44.52 with release notes
Race 2 has no information
Race 1 is nowhere to be found…

Jugger

I got 13 days with 21% battery left. I have to admit I didn’t expect so good battery life. I had 7h of training with GPS and one hour indoor stretching. AOD off(wrist to wake low) OHR, HRV and sleeptracking on 24/7.

Few things to compare V1 to V2 from casual user point of view:
GPS on both are on same level.
OHR I have tested only on walking and daily use. Both seems to work for me without big difference (no head to head comparison).

Sleep tracking is ok. I have few short nights with V2 as it marked few hours after going to sleep as nap. Todays real nap was spot on.

V2 is more comfortable on wrist. It feels lighter than V1. Might be also because of new wrist band. I tried it also on V1 and it made watch sit better on wrist. Material is more silky, not sticky like V1’s original.

Screen is bigger and more sharp. I had my doubts about Amoled being too ”smartwatch” like. I’ve grown to like it now. I miss MIPS always on kind of display but wrist movement starts the screen fast enough to see time. Playing around with screen on do have quite of impact to battery life. This was no problem with V1. Both have good screens for different purpose. I haven’t test it yet with bike so no comment on that.

If I was to plan long hiking or multiday trip I would take V1 just because it makes same things as V2 without worrying about battery life. V2 is more versatile with better health tracking. Both are great watches with slightly different purpose.
Sorry for long post

tomahawk5000

Why sometimes when I run and have for example 141 heart rate (AVG for current lap) I see that I’m on late green zone next time late yellow don’t understand that. Those 5 sections based on the settings which I have should show only heart rate (not zone sense, peace etc)

gogapo

A question for those with the Vertical 2: many reviews say you have to use the screen to go back because there isn’t a dedicated back button like on the Race 2. But from what I’ve found online, if you long-press the middle button you can go back. When using gloves, I expect to rely only on the buttons. Can anyone confirm that the long press works like that? And how long do you have to hold it? Is it quick or annoying compared to the Race 2? Thanks!

Egika

@Manuel-Extreme said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:

When will Suunto add the “Vertical 2” section to support, to at least have a record of updates and their contents?
My Vertical 2 has fw: 2.46.12 but what updates and fixes does it contain?
On the support site:
Vertical 1 shows 2.44.52 with release notes
Race 2 has no information
Race 1 is nowhere to be found…

No idea where you are looking, but Race 1 is here:
https://www.suunto.com/Support/sports-watches-support/suunto-race/
https://www.suunto.com/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-race-software-updates/

Race 2 and Vertical 2 have not received any updates, they are still on the FW they were released with (that means, the “in box” firmware is different from the one Race 2 and Vertical 2 are running on after taking them to use. This is because serial production starts before the software is finalzed.
What the watches update to when switching them on for the first time is the real “initial” software.

Hope my explanation is not too confusing…

Egika

@gogapo said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:

A question for those with the Vertical 2: many reviews say you have to use the screen to go back because there isn’t a dedicated back button like on the Race 2. But from what I’ve found online, if you long-press the middle button you can go back. When using gloves, I expect to rely only on the buttons. Can anyone confirm that the long press works like that? And how long do you have to hold it? Is it quick or annoying compared to the Race 2? Thanks!

Yes, long middle button is the dedicated back button.
You need to hold it for 1s.
If you are deep in menus, pressing and holding the middle button will go step by step all the way back.

gogapo

@Egika thank you

Manuel Extreme

@Egika said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:

No idea where you are looking, but Race 1 is here:
https://www.suunto.com/Support/sports-watches-support/suunto-race/
https://www.suunto.com/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-race-software-updates/

Race 2 and Vertical 2 have not received any updates, they are still on the FW they were released with (that means, the “in box” firmware is different from the one Race 2 and Vertical 2 are running on after taking them to use. This is because serial production starts before the software is finalzed.
What the watches update to when switching them on for the first time is the real “initial” software.

Hope my explanation is not too confusing…

When I connected the Vertical 2 to the Suunto app, a firmware update was downloaded.
I don’t know Suunto’s release policies - typically, the sports watches I use are released with stable software.
I wanted to know what was fixed in the update compared to the preloaded software, since there seems to be a bug in the wrist HR sensor (it turns off without reason).

Brad_Olwin

@Manuel-Extreme The update fixes the OHR problem of turning off when exercising. This should show up in the update information on the Suunto app.

Audaxjoe

@gogapo back button works well. I came from V1 so can’t comment compared to Race. I guess the long press is about a second. It becomes second nature after a few goes.

gogapo

@Audaxjoe thank you

Egika

@Manuel-Extreme said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:

@Egika said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:

No idea where you are looking, but Race 1 is here:
https://www.suunto.com/Support/sports-watches-support/suunto-race/
https://www.suunto.com/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-race-software-updates/

Race 2 and Vertical 2 have not received any updates, they are still on the FW they were released with (that means, the “in box” firmware is different from the one Race 2 and Vertical 2 are running on after taking them to use. This is because serial production starts before the software is finalzed.
What the watches update to when switching them on for the first time is the real “initial” software.

Hope my explanation is not too confusing…

When I connected the Vertical 2 to the Suunto app, a firmware update was downloaded.
I don’t know Suunto’s release policies - typically, the sports watches I use are released with stable software.
I wanted to know what was fixed in the update compared to the preloaded software, since there seems to be a bug in the wrist HR sensor (it turns off without reason).

Yes, this is the process I tried to explain.
Between the manufacturing FW and the one loaded when first taking the watch into use, are usually more than one version. There is no changelog for all those versions, as noone is supposed to operate the watch with the manufactured FW. Both should be stable though, just many features are not fully ready when mechanical production starts.

Manuel Extreme

@Brad_Olwin & @Egika

Thanks for the replies, but actually the firmware is still quite unstable, at least on my watch, despite the update.

the HR sensor randomly turns off and to turn it back on I have to lift the sensor from my wrist and place it back on my skin. This happens several times a day.
when I activate button lock, after about 15 minutes I can’t deactivate it anymore and I have to restart the watch
The Always On Display setting gets randomly disabled even with full battery.

I’m eagerly awaiting a bugfix update.
I use the watch a lot for testing, monitoring SpO2, HR, sleep, doing 3-4 training sessions a day, changing sport modes to check the data, etc.
I don’t know if these bugs only happen to me because of the intensive use I make of the sportwatch, but they shouldn’t happen anyway…

Brad_Olwin

@Manuel-Extreme said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:

@Brad_Olwin & @Egika

Thanks for the replies, but actually the firmware is still quite unstable, at least on my watch, despite the update.

the HR sensor randomly turns off and to turn it back on I have to lift the sensor from my wrist and place it back on my skin. This happens several times a day.
when I activate button lock, after about 15 minutes I can’t deactivate it anymore and I have to restart the watch
The Always On Display setting gets randomly disabled even with full battery.

I’m eagerly awaiting a bugfix update.
I use the watch a lot for testing, monitoring SpO2, HR, sleep, doing 3-4 training sessions a day, changing sport modes to check the data, etc.
I don’t know if these bugs only happen to me because of the intensive use I make of the sportwatch, but they shouldn’t happen anyway…

First, which firmware are you on? Second, the HR sensor should not be turning off. Do you have 24/7HR monitoring turned on? The button lock issue should have been fixed as well as the HR, which is why I asked about firmware version. AOD should not be going off.

Manuel Extreme

@Brad_Olwin

Version V2.46.12, the latest available.
I’d read about an old HR sensor bug that was supposedly fixed. But my Vertical 2 still seems to suffer from it. Despite 24/7 monitoring, sometimes I find it off (I put the complication on the display) with gaps in the monitoring graph. This is especially a problem at night because it messes up all the sleep statistics.
It’s the most serious issue among those listed

Martin Vrska

@pavel.samokha After waking up the watch with a hand movement, the set widget does not launch. I have to press one of the outer buttons and only then can it launch. Does anyone else have this? Performed a soft reset, version 2.46.12. Someone solved a similar problem on Race S. I apologize for any duplication. Thanks.

Audaxjoe

@Martin-Vrska daft question maybe but have you got the raise to wake setting on display only? Off memory there are two settings. One wakes up the screen fully.

I have it setup so I need to press a button to make the screen active.

Brad_Olwin

@Martin-Vrska Which widget? To launch a saved widget a button press is required.

Martin Vrska

@Audaxjoe Yes, I have it set to: full wake mode - medium brightness - always on display: off.