Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion
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@Jan-Suchánek that sounds a lot like a bug that was “feature-ed” to avoid making changes (I know what I’m talking about, i’m a product engineer ^^)
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@Antoine-Lancrenon
after a week of reflexion, and since my solar harvest V1 is not working anymore (hardware issue, only the solar charging is out) and I am adove the 2 years warranty, i was thinking to upgrade.As a “normal” user of the v1, it makes not really sence to upgrade to the v2. i dont care about the oled, i care about battery much more as a hicker and ultra runner.
I am an outdoor man and do use the torch of my v1 (with. the screen) it is pretty poor in comparison with the dedicated led of the V2, this is thenonly point really where i want to upgrade.
may be the improved accuracy of the HR? but i am happy with wath I got with v1, true with issues.I think Ill stick with the V1 until the v3 is out… what about you v1 owners, why are you upgrading really here?
*we loose the mip
*we loose a significant battery longevity on different conditions
*no configurable battery management
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I much prefer the V2 screen for every day use.
The watch faces come to life. And the face in reality looks a lot bigger for my ageing eyes as there is no solar bevel.
Battery life is still excellent.The upgrade is minimal but for me worth it. But I totally understand skipping a generation of watches. It is the logical thing to do!
One area I don’t like on the V2 is the bike performance when on the handlebars. V1 is better.
Owe yes, the torch is great
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If I choose Athletics watchface with Display settings (brightness low, AOD off, raise to wake - full wake mode) and I lock the watch (bottom button) after some time watch cannot be unlocked. Top button reset helps. If I choose raise to wake - Display only there is no issue.
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@Egika Is this a bug or an intentionally designed feature?
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Sometimes my Vertical 2 turns off the HR sensor until I take it off and put it back on my wrist. This creates problems reading parameters, especially sleep tracking.
I did a factory reset but it didn’t solve the issue.
The firmware is updated to the latest version.
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Don’t like the concept of V2.
For me It’s not differ so much from the race 2…The spirit of V1 was with a huge autonomie.
That’s clear the the solar panel bring not so much.
But a watch better sensor, and same autonomy, and a bigger screen readable (with mip technology) by hiking for a long time would be welcome.
Worse autonomy/performance for a gadget screen… sad.Would suggest that suunto make a M version of the V2 with mip screen…
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@Manuel-Extreme said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
Sometimes my Vertical 2 turns off the HR sensor until I take it off and put it back on my wrist. This creates problems reading parameters, especially sleep tracking.
I did a factory reset but it didn’t solve the issue.
The firmware is updated to the latest version.
Has this happened to you too?It has happened on v1 so I assume it could be firmware related
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After 11 days of using V2, OHR, sleep tracking, some GPS activities I got 42% left. Race 1 was charged 1 day after V2, rebooted, everything turned off, just laying on the shelf and also has 42% left…
I don’t know, where Suunto get these numbers. If the discharge rate will stay same, it will last 19 days, but my guess is 15-17 days. OK, it´s UP TO, but even with 19 days it´s 27% less with only one wake per day :-).
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@Jan-Suchánek you are talking about the Race 1 battery here?
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When will Suunto add the “Vertical 2” section to support, to at least have a record of updates and their contents?
My Vertical 2 has fw: 2.46.12 but what updates and fixes does it contain?
On the support site:
Vertical 1 shows 2.44.52 with release notes
Race 2 has no information
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I got 13 days with 21% battery left. I have to admit I didn’t expect so good battery life. I had 7h of training with GPS and one hour indoor stretching. AOD off(wrist to wake low) OHR, HRV and sleeptracking on 24/7.
Few things to compare V1 to V2 from casual user point of view:
GPS on both are on same level.
OHR I have tested only on walking and daily use. Both seems to work for me without big difference (no head to head comparison).Sleep tracking is ok. I have few short nights with V2 as it marked few hours after going to sleep as nap. Todays real nap was spot on.
V2 is more comfortable on wrist. It feels lighter than V1. Might be also because of new wrist band. I tried it also on V1 and it made watch sit better on wrist. Material is more silky, not sticky like V1’s original.
Screen is bigger and more sharp. I had my doubts about Amoled being too ”smartwatch” like. I’ve grown to like it now. I miss MIPS always on kind of display but wrist movement starts the screen fast enough to see time. Playing around with screen on do have quite of impact to battery life. This was no problem with V1. Both have good screens for different purpose. I haven’t test it yet with bike so no comment on that.
If I was to plan long hiking or multiday trip I would take V1 just because it makes same things as V2 without worrying about battery life. V2 is more versatile with better health tracking. Both are great watches with slightly different purpose.
Sorry for long post
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Why sometimes when I run and have for example 141 heart rate (AVG for current lap) I see that I’m on late green zone next time late yellow don’t understand that. Those 5 sections based on the settings which I have should show only heart rate (not zone sense, peace etc)
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A question for those with the Vertical 2: many reviews say you have to use the screen to go back because there isn’t a dedicated back button like on the Race 2. But from what I’ve found online, if you long-press the middle button you can go back. When using gloves, I expect to rely only on the buttons. Can anyone confirm that the long press works like that? And how long do you have to hold it? Is it quick or annoying compared to the Race 2? Thanks!
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@Manuel-Extreme said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
When will Suunto add the “Vertical 2” section to support, to at least have a record of updates and their contents?
My Vertical 2 has fw: 2.46.12 but what updates and fixes does it contain?
On the support site:
Vertical 1 shows 2.44.52 with release notes
Race 2 has no information
Race 1 is nowhere to be found…No idea where you are looking, but Race 1 is here:
https://www.suunto.com/Support/sports-watches-support/suunto-race/
https://www.suunto.com/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-race-software-updates/Race 2 and Vertical 2 have not received any updates, they are still on the FW they were released with (that means, the “in box” firmware is different from the one Race 2 and Vertical 2 are running on after taking them to use. This is because serial production starts before the software is finalzed.
What the watches update to when switching them on for the first time is the real “initial” software.Hope my explanation is not too confusing…
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@gogapo said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
A question for those with the Vertical 2: many reviews say you have to use the screen to go back because there isn’t a dedicated back button like on the Race 2. But from what I’ve found online, if you long-press the middle button you can go back. When using gloves, I expect to rely only on the buttons. Can anyone confirm that the long press works like that? And how long do you have to hold it? Is it quick or annoying compared to the Race 2? Thanks!
Yes, long middle button is the dedicated back button.
You need to hold it for 1s.
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@Egika thank you
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@Egika said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
No idea where you are looking, but Race 1 is here:
https://www.suunto.com/Support/sports-watches-support/suunto-race/
https://www.suunto.com/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-race-software-updates/Race 2 and Vertical 2 have not received any updates, they are still on the FW they were released with (that means, the “in box” firmware is different from the one Race 2 and Vertical 2 are running on after taking them to use. This is because serial production starts before the software is finalzed.
What the watches update to when switching them on for the first time is the real “initial” software.Hope my explanation is not too confusing…
When I connected the Vertical 2 to the Suunto app, a firmware update was downloaded.
I don’t know Suunto’s release policies - typically, the sports watches I use are released with stable software.
I wanted to know what was fixed in the update compared to the preloaded software, since there seems to be a bug in the wrist HR sensor (it turns off without reason). -
@Manuel-Extreme The update fixes the OHR problem of turning off when exercising. This should show up in the update information on the Suunto app.
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@gogapo back button works well. I came from V1 so can’t comment compared to Race. I guess the long press is about a second. It becomes second nature after a few goes.
