How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?

[fv4500]

I think that the 9PP has it very complicated to stand out against the Race S… the new RS is all shininess and bells and whistles and the key differences that the 9PP has against the RS are made evident only in the “long run”.
Surprisingly enough, if the 9PP gets the same updates it will put it as an extremely good competitor to it! I still think that the MIPS display is fantastic outdoors and is not a lighthouse in your wrist on a daily use. Also, a slight reduction in price would put the 9PP in a better position, I think.
I’m very happy with the 9PP, but I would have serious difficulties if I had to decide between the Race S and the 9PP today, frankly speaking .

[enriqueescoms]

@fv4500 Well, like that, I agree with your point of view.

[enriqueescoms]

@Egika said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

@enriqueescoms

Race S has maps, dual frequency GPS and Amoled display
S9PP has a longer battery life in daily mode, a Sapphire screen and a MIP display.

That’s basically about the difference. Comes down to personal preference what one rates higher for their use case.

Sure, of course. I imagine that in a while someone will do a comparative review between one model and another.

[raceaddict]

@enriqueescoms this one ?

Or you can use the comparative tool on the Suunto site.

[enriqueescoms]

@raceaddict Yeah, of course. Although, beyond the strict specifications, I was referring rather to a comparison in real use (pros and cons).

(I am referring to readability in different situations, comfort, perceived quality, user experience, etc. That kind of things.)

[Brad_Olwin]

@enriqueescoms They are nearly identical in terms of comfort, use, etc. However one screen is far brighter, more colorful and has much higher resolution!

[enriqueescoms]

@Brad_Olwin said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

@enriqueescoms They are nearly identical in terms of comfort, use, etc. However one screen is far brighter, more colorful and has much higher resolution!

So as I think, Race S come to kill our 9PP´s

[enriqueescoms]

It is significant to see that just over a year ago (may 2023) the 9PP was little less than the flagship, the top of the range at Suunto. And in that small space of time, it has become practically an entry-level range.

I imagine that this speaks very well of the effort that Suunto has made in recent months.

(Oops, I still don’t know if this is good for me or not. )

[HansLeo]

@enriqueescoms Yeah, that’s truly incredible!

By the way, the S9PP as an “entry-level” watch is awesome for newbies; it got all the features, and to me when I use it still gives me some Ambit 3 Peak vibes in terms of performance and ruggedness

[wurzlsepp]

@enriqueescoms said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

So as I think, Race S come to kill our 9PP´s

I won’t let it be killed that easily the MIP screen and thus the long screen-on-time of the 9PP is literally the only thing that makes it better than my smartphone.
Instead of the Race S, i could just use my phone with a screen even more vibrant

[krakra]

@wurzlsepp on s9pp i would miss maps personally

[A Former User]

@enriqueescoms said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

It is significant to see that just over a year ago (may 2023) the 9PP was little less than the flagship, the top of the range at Suunto. And in that small space of time, it has become practically an entry-level range.

I imagine that this speaks very well of the effort that Suunto has made in recent months.

True. The 9PP was a gem and I hope the RS will be a worthy follower. Time will tell.

[enriqueescoms]

@HansLeo said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

@enriqueescoms Yeah, that’s truly incredible!

By the way, the S9PP as an “entry-level” watch is awesome for newbies; it got all the features, and to me when I use it still gives me some Ambit 3 Peak vibes in terms of performance and ruggedness

Absolutely

[fv4500]

Haven’t seen DC Rainmaker’s video on the Race S until today, and frankly speaking I love my 9PP more than ever after I heard that he’s getting more like 3-ish days of battery life with always-on display in the Race S, here:

With my 12-ish days with almost daily training, the 9PP is in another galaxy, really.

Still loving the new Race S , Suunto did a very nice job.

[raceaddict]

@fv4500 yeah, it’s currently the drawback of Amoled but as even AOD is still a sort of power saving mode, I think it’s best to leave it off and you have up to 9days of battery life w/o any exercice. Not bad for the size.

[A Former User]

@fv4500 it would be interesting to know if DCR had the latest (production) fw when he did the review and/or did the testing, several patches may have been released in between

Just found out the answer I was looking for:

[raceaddict]

@Hari-Seldon for sure, but 3/4 days aod w/ 1h of training per day seems to align with 5 days w/o as indicated by Suunto. Other reviewers talked about a week of battery life with some training in gesture mode, also in line with the 9 days w/o given by Suunto.
All seems coherent. It is in the ballpark of Epix pro 42mm, and with a battery life during exercise two or three times better, so still very competitive.

[isazi]

@raceaddict for me is also around a full week, without AOD but with outdoor activities.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

MIP Small
9PP

MIP Large
Vertical

AMOLED Small
Race S

AMOLED Large
Race

Also, 9PP being more of a proof of concept in terms of new hardware and software in the nearly identical body as 9P (I think it should be rather called 9P v2 or mark II, etc.)

[wurzlsepp]

@krakra well true, personal preference. I am hoping for the improved turn-by-turn notifications instead (coming with the next update a little, as i heard?🥳).
All the Garmin people i know even have reroutable maps, but as soon as we get lost they get out their smartphone as well just more convenient on a bigger screen …