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    Sport modes supporting Vo2max measurement (suunto vertical)

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    • isaziI Offline
      isazi Moderator @Guest
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      @neonix said in Sport modes supporting Vo2max measurement (suunto vertical):

      If you take statements like “flaky and unreliable software at best” personal, then maybe you are not a good fit to be a moderator on the watch manufacturers support forum. That’s all I have to say to you.

      And here I believe is where you got it all wrong, this is not the support forum, this is a community forum so your frustration on this forum is directed at other users like you, some of them even using their personal time to help you answer a question that no one on this planet can answer except you: why a feature of your watch is not working for you.

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      • sartoricS Offline
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        … aaaaand he left

        that’s probably what’s supposed to be a “discussion”

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          @isazi not wanting to pick sides here but definitely he’s not the only one with a V02 Max problem. I myself am using the Vertical for more than a month now with multiple runs and still don’t have a V02 max estimation. Taking a quick look at the forum and I can find many others with the same issue. I know here is just a forum of users and not the right place to resolve the issue but I get he’s frustrated

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            BrunoH Gold Members @mfreire
            last edited by BrunoH

            @mfreire it’s also about the lack of communication and precise info from Suunto. I personally asked the VO2max requirements from Suunto support when the user manual was being too vague. Since then I’ve been under the impression of having to run at Z3 for some 15 minutes.

            Today I learned that someone got their result by walking with HR under 113 bpm 😮

            I’ve had Vertical for a year now and I’ve never seen my VO2max. I can live without it, but all this hidden or contradicting information sucks big time.

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              @BrunoH Is these advises useful for you ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/suunto.fr/posts/7261180257283408/?_rdr

              SUUNTO RACE-RUNNING ESTIMATED
              If you’re not getting estimates, I have a couple of tips you can try 😉
              -Sports mode “Running”

              • Use WHR and not HR belt
                -Flat route
                -Make sure your runs have at least 10 minutes of running in HR Zone 2 or higher and good GNSS (GPS) tracking (it usually is, but just in case).
                We have a nice S+ “HR Zone Duration” app to measure time in HR zones
                -Do 3 races that meet the above criteria.
                ENJOY🔺
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                GiPFELKiND Silver Members @raceaddict
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                @raceaddict said in Sport modes supporting Vo2max measurement (suunto vertical):

                @BrunoH Is these advises useful for you ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/suunto.fr/posts/7261180257283408/?_rdr

                SUUNTO RACE-RUNNING ESTIMATED
                If you’re not getting estimates, I have a couple of tips you can try 😉
                -Sports mode “Running”

                • Use WHR and not HR belt

                WHY use only WRIST HR and No Suunto Belt? That doesnt make sense… Same procedure with Lactat Treshhold?! 😲 Totally not understand this procedure…

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                  sartoric Moderator @GiPFELKiND
                  last edited by sartoric

                  @GiPFELKiND
                  Those are common suggestions for RACE.
                  Except the belt thing, are valid for SV as well

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                  • BrunoHB Offline
                    BrunoH Gold Members @raceaddict
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                    @raceaddict well it is completely different from what the support told me. Which proves my point, why can’t we see exact requirements from Suunto online manual? I can’t bother looking for instructions from some random Facebook pages.

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                      raceaddict Bronze Member @BrunoH
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                      @BrunoH It is not exactly a random facebook post as Joaquin Perez is a sponsored Suunto athlete very active as Suunto ambassador https://www.youtube.com/c/JoaquinPérezSuuntoExpert/videos
                      I expect him to have first class information

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                        BrunoH Gold Members @raceaddict
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                        @raceaddict respect to Joaquin, but Suunto should definitely improve their docs. An ambassadeur’s tips and tricks on social media can’t replace official documentation.

                        Considering the number of people in this forum who have found OHR unreliable, I really find Joaquin’s instructions pretty puzzling. The forum’s field testers keep telling everybody to use HR strap instead, because OHR reliability differs between individuals.

                        And to make my own situation even worse I just broke a toe 🫣

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                          raceaddict Bronze Member @BrunoH
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                          @BrunoH The use of the OHR is to unlock the estimates after 3 runs. After you are free to use external belt sensor.

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                            @raceaddict said in Sport modes supporting Vo2max measurement (suunto vertical):

                            @BrunoH The use of the OHR is to unlock the estimates after 3 runs. After you are free to use external belt sensor.

                            That is very unusually. Why trust the “not good” OHR Sensor for estimates? When the belt got very good measurement? And after 3 runs we have to use the belt? Sorry that doesnt make sense. Otherwise if i got estimates after 3 runs with Belt that make much more sense. After that i could use only OHR measurement.

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                              isazi Moderator @GiPFELKiND
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                              @GiPFELKiND we are talking about a different issue, the fact that Race has a bug so VO2max and race time predictions are only unlocked if you use OHR (you can use the belt or other sensors after the first time you see the estimates) will be fixed with next software update.

                              Vertical uses a different algorithm, and it works also with external monitors.

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                              • matteo_000M Offline
                                matteo_000
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                                I have the same problem with VO2max value on my SV. My watch doesn’t show anything about VO2max also after 3 runs but neither 1 run…the last was yesterday (attached).
                                I use a HR belt and the sport activity is run customized not default.

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                                  isazi Moderator @matteo_000
                                  last edited by isazi

                                  @matteo_000 how are zones configured on your watch? Feel free to send me a message in private.

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                                    Hi.
                                    VO2max on my SV stay constant from 14.11.2023. it doesn’t matter what sport I do, it doesn’t matter if I use a heart sensor belt or OHR, the result is always the same. The sports I do are trail running, hiking, MTB, mountaineering. VO2max is fixed. SV watch is regularly upgraded. Any idea for solution?

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