How often are the maps updated - schedule
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@maszop said in How often are the maps updated - schedule:
The latest map update is the “temporary” removal of contour lines from the most necessary view screens.
just to clarify (and i am not that happy myself of this fact) : contour lines were removed only for zoom = 500m. Before the map update, there was no zoom >500m, so new zoom layers (1km and 2 km) were added without countour lines
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@maszop addressing people you do not know saying they are “detached from reality” is something that we do not tolerate in the forum. I understand you may be pissed for something, but redirect your hatred to your watch or whatever you prefer, not real people working for Suunto, many of whom also are in this forum and do not like to be insulted for nothing.
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@isazi I used very strong words, but let’s be serious, topographic maps with a view of up to 200m are practically useless in the mountains.
A view of a larger area without contours is often useless maps.
Someone decided about it and implemented it.EOT
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@maszop If you read here and there you will “guess” that maps and navigation will be improved soonish. Contour lines should return. I do not know when or how.
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But do we know how often maps are updated to the latest OSM data? Almost end of Q2, i.e., 6 months since the last update. Are we really only getting 1-2 updates per year? I would assume that a user could just option to not update a map if a available in SA, so why not make the updates more frequently and let the passioned map-explorers update ongoingly?
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@cosme-costa
Hi! Could you link this “here and there”? Suunto strategy on maps seems to me a little too mysterious… -
So the maps in Vertical and Race are not updated from OSM each time they are wiped out and loaded anew?
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel said in How often are the maps updated - schedule:
So the maps in Vertical and Race are not updated from OSM each time they are wiped out and loaded anew?
I assume the maps are not downloaded directly from OSM, but from Suunto’s servers, and there may be some work with them before they’re ready for our watches.
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Maps are provided by mapbox, not by OSM directly, so there is even an additional step
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@sartoric I see my updates in SA after 1 - 2 weeks. What about the watch? What if I were to remove a map and push it again to the watch? Would it be the latest version available in mapbox?
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel
Probably no.
In SA, there is an online map, while in watch, there is an offline version, including all zooms, etc… -
@Mff73 so, the maps, despite being based on OSM, have to be processed somehow, manually, to be compatible with watches?
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel yes, updates are not automatically reflected on the watch, because even if the data is available Suunto needs to process the maps for the watches. So maps on watches are updated when Suunto decides to do that, there is no official schedule.
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@isazi A real bummer to be honest. Would have loved just quarterly updates and then let the users decide if they want to spend time updating their watches.
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@ilstrup so far we had maps for one year, and had one update plus bug fixes for problematic maps. It’s not quarterly but maps are updated.
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@ilstrup AFAIK even Garmin is not offering quarterly updates to the topos. Maybe once or twice a year.
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It would be nice if the offline maps binary format was described somewhere.
I see the watch calls binary files ending with smtf extension (though file first bytes shows ‘FMTS’ word) from suunto CDN servers when loading map tiles.With this map format described and maybe a way to configure the map server endpoint in SA or in the watch, we could create or use our own topo maps (like for instance opentopomap).
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@Konibori said in How often are the maps updated - schedule:
It would be nice if the offline maps binary format was described somewhere.
I see the watch calls binary files ending with smtf extension (though file first bytes shows ‘FMTS’ word) from suunto CDN servers when loading map tiles.With this map format described and maybe a way to configure the map server endpoint in SA or in the watch, we could create or use our own topo maps (like for instance opentopomap).
wow, Suunto map hack! let’s start a separate thread for this
smtf is maybe SuuntoMapTileFormat
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This isn’t for the on-watch maps, but the background info for the maps in the Suunto App seems to update in near real time with edits to OpenStreetMap. The imagery does not, though.
For instance, I added a new path connected to an existing one a day or two ago and was surprised to see that the app correctly routed to it, turn-by-turn instructions and all. It’ll be interesting to see how long it takes Mapbox to update their imagery to match.
So while we wait for Suunto to update the on-watch maps, we can at least create routes with up-to-date info.
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@isazi is there a notification or way to know if the map requires updates?
