Suunto race new owner - after 3 weeks - with bad ending
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@EzioAuditore said in Suunto race new owner - after 3 weeks - with bad ending:
@Ionut Just a brief feedback from a fellow user that owns all brands of watches:
- …crossfit and you rely on OHR? Get a band like Polar OH1 or Verity sense. No matter how tight you put any watch you’ll never get accurate data …
I will confirm that any wrist flex while reading wrist HR can wildly throw the numbers off. When rowing, sandbag training, pull ups, dead lifts or boxing I always wear a chest strap to get more consistent data. All of these exercises involve wrist movements that would potentially depreciate the signal.
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@Ionut I highly recommend and arm or chest strap. I use an arm strap that I paid 20€ (coospo HW9) with my vertical and it’s more accurate than any wrist HR of any watch. I can highly recommend It and you don’t even notice it’s there. If you look further you’ll notice there are very good reviews about that cheap strap, with a very similar accuracy as the Verity Sense.
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@Todd-Danielczyk Yes agreed. If you are serious in any sport that involves reaching Max HR you should not rely on OHR. I only use OHR when casually walking (if I track it and want to have it in the app), yoga, bike commuting and some pilates core without much arm movement. All other I use plethora of bands (be it Sense, H10, Karoo’s HR while biking)
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Yeah, chest strap or arm strap. The wrist is ok for 24x7 hr, but with certain activities (running, cycling and gym work) you’re going to hit issues like cadence lock etc.
I have a Scosche R2, a Verity sense, a H9 and a HRM PRO+. Havent used wrist hr for activities for a long while.
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- The update of the watch faces was based on feedback by users that they want to change how and what is shown on the watch face - same as the other brands.
Wow, what a surprise, hard to believe that users asked for such UX en masse
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I personally like the design and UX of the new watch faces a lot better than previous version - so I guess I would have been one of those users who gave it a thumbs up.
@false said in Suunto race new owner - after 3 weeks - with bad ending:
- The update of the watch faces was based on feedback by users that they want to change how and what is shown on the watch face - same as the other brands.
Wow, what a surprise, hard to believe that users asked for such UX en masse
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@EzioAuditore said in Suunto race new owner - after 3 weeks - with bad ending:
@Ionut Just a brief feedback from a fellow user that owns all brands of watches:
- crossfit and you rely on OHR? Get a band like Polar OH1 or Verity sense. No matter how tight you put any watch you’ll never get accurate data (My AWU2 is grey indicating cannot read HR,My FR965 shows strange numbers too depending on the blood flow it registers same as the Race)
I would probably ignore this issues, but fellows crossfitters who own an Apple Watch for example have very accurate readings. Anyway, it’s been debated few posts up.
- The update of the watch faces was based on feedback by users that they want to change how and what is shown on the watch face - same as the other brands.
This is just nonsense. Pure nonsense. Anyone who wanted a certain info to see could just scroll to whatever they desire and leave it as is. Now I have just 2 options, for everything else I have to go in the menu. Simply put, it’s stupid.
In order to summarize (and come back again in 3 months time), without throwing out hate, the watch is like this: you have quite a lot features that draw information based on an OHR which is bad. Therefore, when you pay, you pay for all these features. But they let you down because, well, their engine is crap. So, why pay extra? As I said in the beginning I moved to this from Ambit 3S that I used with a belt. After 9 years I decided to ditch it - though still working very well (I must say I am amazed that its battery still holds 7-8+ days) - in order to have something good and reliable. Simply put, it’s anything but reliable.
Maybe my expectations were too high…And just one more thing: if by any chance I will run into someone who does crossfit and uses OHR with great accuracy (except Apple Watch) I will be utterly pissed.
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@Ionut What stop you from using your Race with belt ?
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@Ionut said in Suunto race new owner - after 3 weeks - with bad ending:
@EzioAuditore said in Suunto race new owner - after 3 weeks - with bad ending:
@Ionut Just a brief feedback from a fellow user that owns all brands of watches:
- crossfit and you rely on OHR? Get a band like Polar OH1 or Verity sense. No matter how tight you put any watch you’ll never get accurate data (My AWU2 is grey indicating cannot read HR,My FR965 shows strange numbers too depending on the blood flow it registers same as the Race)
I would probably ignore this issues, but fellows crossfitters who own an Apple Watch for example have very accurate readings. Anyway, it’s been debated few posts up.
I was doing CrossFit with AWU2 and my OHR half of the time is undetectable so there’s that. A friend of mine is also in the same boat even with the lighter AW8. So let’s agree to disagree.
- The update of the watch faces was based on feedback by users that they want to change how and what is shown on the watch face - same as the other brands.
This is just nonsense. Pure nonsense. Anyone who wanted a certain info to see could just scroll to whatever they desire and leave it as is. Now I have just 2 options, for everything else I have to go in the menu. Simply put, it’s stupid.
So… when you want to see something you were pressing on the PREDEFINED complication and were able to see something that Suunto decided to show on the certain watch face. But you had no problem of scrolling to the widgets. Now that you can choose what you want to see (dependant on the watch face up to 5 options) it’s limitation? Oh and you are unable to scroll anymore and see what you want? Or long press the complication and see details?
I believe Suunto bases their decisions of the survey feedback which if they are 80+% for customisable than that’s what people prefer (same like voting
).In order to summarize (and come back again in 3 months time), without throwing out hate, the watch is like this: you have quite a lot features that draw information based on an OHR which is bad. Therefore, when you pay, you pay for all these features. But they let you down because, well, their engine is crap. So, why pay extra? As I said in the beginning I moved to this from Ambit 3S that I used with a belt. After 9 years I decided to ditch it - though still working very well (I must say I am amazed that its battery still holds 7-8+ days) - in order to have something good and reliable. Simply put, it’s anything but reliable.
Maybe my expectations were too high…Anybody that is serious in training with HR will never use OHR, no matter how good certain OHRs are they are nowhere near good as belts.
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@raceaddict I used to go running more than anything else. Sometimes you forget it, sometimes the battery runs out etc. Also the techonology for OHR is available for many years so I just decided it is time for a new gadget. I went once with it to crossfit and it also broke - after so many years of sweat and salt it is normal.
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@Ionut In this case the choice of a suunto for ohr wasn’t vey wise. It isn’t a secret, as highlighted in every review, of all the contenders on the sportwatch market, Suunto is the worst for ohr. It is doing a lot of things right but ohr isn’t one of them.
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@raceaddict I also heard such reviews about ohr. I used to wear suunto 5 for running and sensor was really bad then I switched to 9pp and it worked pretty nice for me, at least I forgot about HR belt for easy and some tempo runs. So I think it’s pretty individual. For short intervals wrist ohr is useless - true
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@Adam-Rykala 100% with you on those recommendations. I have a Verity Sense and a Scosche R2+ and have found both of them solid across all my activities. I’ve never trusted wrist-based OHR for anything other than general daily monitoring because I have bony wrists
