SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024

gizmo

Unfortunately, it seems that Suunto is following in Garmin’s footsteps, i.e. instead of fixing obvious problems (disappearing track in navigation, too quick message about the next point, very weak WHR, no key lock outside of training, etc.), it adds new unnecessary functions and generates further problems. It’s a pity, a great pity. The only reason people choose Suunto, Coros or Polar watches is because they are tired of Garmin’s politics. Garmin watches are better in every respect, so if Suunto’s policy does not change to be different from Garmin’s, people will return to Garmin.
Suunto has always won with simplicity and reliability, and let it remain that way. Focus on the problems, solve them, and don’t waste your programmers’ time creating pointless watch faces. We already have dozens of unnecessary functions that do not work properly and dozens of errors in Garmin. Sunnto needs to create a reliable, solid alternative, not duplicate garbage.

Iceman1

@ppresing same for me. Im using a new watchface and the screen sent black during my run. I dont use always on display, but Im pretty sure that wasnt nessessary in previous fw. Quite annoying…

sartoric

@gizmo said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

Unfortunately, it seems that Suunto is following in Garmin’s footsteps […] It’s a pity, a great pity. The only reason people choose Suunto, Coros or Polar watches is because they are tired of Garmin’s politics. Garmin watches are better in every respect […]

Mmhhh … I’m a little puzzled here

gizmo

@sartoric Of course, Garmin watches are better, more technologically advanced and more accurate. The only problem is that they do not respect users, do not correct errors for years and introduce many unnecessary changes. Garmin users will sooner or later get bored with it and will look for an alternative. And if they don’t find it, they go back to Garmin, choosing the lesser evil.

@gizmo said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

more accurate

cough (been a garmin dude for years)

gizmo

@cjanevate in every aspect… WHR, GPS, sleep tracking…
It is not my intention to praise Garmin. I already had a dozen Garmin watches and the same number of Suunto, Coros and Polar. I dream that Suunto will overcome this general mediocrity and disregard of its loyal users

cosme.costa

@gizmo Well, selling numbers will tell if you are right or wrong. But I think you are wrong.

Like you I prefer simple things and very reliable but is not what the market asks and eventually Suunto needs to sell watches to survive, if not, at the end only Garmin will remain.

@gizmo said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

@sartoric Of course, Garmin watches are better, more technologically advanced and more accurate

Are you sure? Were they have better technology?
Accuracy, against what you have compared it?

gizmo

@cosme-costa
As I wrote earlier, it is not my intention to praise Garmin. I already had a dozen Garmin watches and the same number of Suunto, Coros and Polar. I dream that Suunto will overcome this general mediocrity and disregard of its loyal users

@gizmo said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

I dream that Suunto will overcome this general mediocrity and disregard of its loyal users

I think Suunto is doing well considering the resources it owns

gizmo

@cjanevate
I don’t deny that. It’s just a pity that we have to wait a few months for the update and get some unimportant function, a few pathetic watch faces and the most important bugs that haven’t been fixed.

Elipsus

@gizmo more technologically advanced in what regard ?

@gizmo said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

we have to wait a few months for the update and get some unimportant function

Probably the right balance for them to cope with all with the resources it owns as said.
There are neither winners nor losers in the end, just our choices so love or “hate” it.

cosme.costa

@gizmo Come on! these 3 aspects?

WHR : You want accuracy, you need to use a band in any brand, any. In my case S9B WHR was really bad in the SV is perfectly usable.
GPS: With SR and SV, simply this is not true. Besides remeber that Suunto does not smooth the track in the app, like other brands do.
Sleep Tracking: In the SV is spot on.

@gizmo said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

I already had a dozen Garmin watches and the same number of Suunto, Coros and Polar.

An this means, what? A part that you have a lot of money to spend. Please, give us the numbers where you demonstrate that one is more accurate that the other.

sartoric

Please stay IT, let’s not start THE debate … again

Mine was just a joke about the “contradiction”

isazi

@Dušan-Ković do you have always on enabled or disabled? I believe that this sets the behavior for the watch.

Todd Danielczyk

@sartoric oh the contradictions… I swear I wish I could run a tally for every has to be like! Has to be different! Message out there.

If Suunto took every suggestion to heart

But alas I enjoy the outdoors and my Suunto… I rather do some exploring instead. Especially with that new ruler on the maps (that was a pleasant find!). Nice job Suunto

Dušan Ković

@ppresing Thank you for testing this. This was not behaviour on the previous FW. It is a Bug definitely, because performance mode has Always on display in options.

@isazi said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

@Dušan-Ković do you have always on enabled or disabled? I believe that this sets the behavior for the watch.

No, it is turned off in the watch options, I only have simple raise to wake, than it shows just simple data, not full watch face.
Performance mode should keep the display Always on, as it is defined in its options.

isazi

@Dušan-Ković yes it changed and now activity uses the same mode as daily mode for the Race, to avoid burn-in and increase battery life. I am with you in thinking that the behavior in daily mode and during activity should be two separate things.

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.37.48

Ahhh, another “new firmware” post and another “Garmin does it better”. This never gets boring, does it?

gizmo

@Łukasz-Szmigiel said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

Ahhh, another “new firmware” post and another “Garmin does it better”. This never gets boring, does it?

Garmin doesn’t do it better, but Suunto does it just as bad…
Garmin won’t change that, but I believe Suunto can.