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    • olymayO Offline
      olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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      @jamie-bg I haven’t tried it on Tizen, but the Garmin Spotify app is utterly appalling!!

      Do you think there is a deal involved that stops them from producing quality apps? Or are they simply not interested in (what they perceive to be) a small market?

      I have been active on the Spotify forums and offline music has ben requested not for at least 8 years. Every now and again Spotify respond with a typical corporate copy and paste answer along the lines…

      “We appreciate your feedback and thank you for your continued support. This is a feature we are considering and will provide an update as it progresses.”

      I guess one can do a considerable amount of considering in 8 years!!

      I honestly think they simply do not care.

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        Jamie BG Bronze Member @olymay
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        @olymay I am sure I read a about a deal a couple of years back, when Spotify was just taking off, that they did a wearables deal with Tizen and Garmin. I think they must have locked themselves in for far too long, as I can’t see a good reason for them not adjsuting their app to provide offline play - or getting someone to build it for them, for the apple market at the very least.

        I think they signed a long term deal, short sightedly thinking that they would never be able to win over Android/Apple market due to their in house solutions. And this has now prevented them from providing an offline app for everyone else; and that is also the reason why Tizen and Garmin - as no inhouse streaming options and next largest markets.

        Question has been put to them and they ignore it. Which I think is really stupid- they should just come out and say we messed up - locked in until x date, can’t do anything about it. But I think they think if they were to say it, they would lose custom from their phone/pc customers.
        Considering available options, I don’t think they will. I personally think they will lose custom when their is a solution for wear os / Apple Watch. If Google had any brains they should realize they have a huge, and a really huge opportunity to make YouTube Music bigger than spotify. Give a similar service, same price and provide decent app for phone, wearable , PC and connect to Google/Alexa devices - and bingo, bye bye Spotify.

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          olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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          @jamie-bg that would be incredibly short sighted of Spotify if true and will likely come back to bite them.

          Google have confirmed they are working on a YouTube Music app for WearOS, but there is no confirmation if it will include offline playback, but as Google Play Music had this then I am hopeful.
          There is also no hint as to when it will be released. They should have have had it ready before they killed GPM, but hey ho.

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            Jamie BG Bronze Member @olymay
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            @olymay should have kept play music until YouTube was ready - it really worked well too.

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              olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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              @jamie-bg Agreed, it was brilliant.

              However, for the most part YTM is pretty good on the phone (million times better than when it launched!) so I am hoping that the WearOS version will also be pretty decent 🤞

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                Aleksander H Bronze Member @olymay
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                @olymay said in Suunto 7 and music:

                Google have confirmed they are working on a YouTube Music app for WearOS, but there is no confirmation if it will include offline playback, but as Google Play Music had this then I am hopeful.

                Just incase anyone is wondering where they have confirmed this,

                https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/youtube-music-now-available-apple-watch/

                Close to the end they say

                Stay tuned for additional updates on YouTube Music availability on WearOS.

                This is a blog post from 15th October. Hopefully we wont have to stay tuned for to much longer.

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                  Jamie BG Bronze Member @Aleksander H
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                  @aleksander-h could be in for a long wait, considering from when other blogs/people announced the weather update / the tile update which we still don’t have - Suunto I believe this is on you / and the H MR2 update - which we were the first to receive, but some other manufacturers are only receiving now (manufacturers fault).

                  Generally wear os stuff only gets announced when its going to launch, so wouldn’t hold my breath. If you see blogs starting to get excited about, then can start waiting.

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                    olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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                    @jamie-bg I would agree with you, except that a YTM app will be exactly that, a separate app, and not directly tied into WearOS itself. It will simply need Google to publish it to the Play Store and there will be no need to liaise with hardware manufacturers etc.
                    Hopefully this will speed things up.

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                      Jamie BG Bronze Member @olymay
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                      @olymay only problem with that are tiles and weather update isn’t tied to manufacturers either - that is a direct drop by google via play store - and that drop took over 6 months to come out from when the bloggers heard about it. Yes it also there is some sort of reliance from manufacturers - can’t quite make out what, but seems they have to sign off on it once its available before will be rolled out to device i.e. why we don’t have our additional tiles yet (suspect may be to enable manufacturers to say no if they tihnk it might not be beneficial to device).

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                        olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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                        @jamie-bg I’m not sure about that, as if it was just down to Google sending out via Play Store then all devices would get it at the same time. Instead, some have it and some don’t, and some have only half (my S7 has the new weather app, but still limited to five tiles).
                        It is still part of the WearOS app.

                        YTM will be completely separate and when it goes live will be available to everyone all at the same time.

                        I do agree that the timescale could be anything from days to months (or longer) as Google have a long history of announcing something shiny and new but not releasing it for a long time.

                        Ah well, we sit and wait, as usual.

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