So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

@andrasveres said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@André-Faria Surprisingly pleasant technical barrier? Nah!

A pleasant surprise, along with a “technical” barrier

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

this survey should not be there. MC is closing in a few weeks.

Now we have dates

Fenr1r

@André-Faria Thanks for that.

I wonder what “Routes still available” means. And what, if any, future for POIs.

Was there detail “below”?

@Fenr1r said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@André-Faria Thanks for that.

I wonder what “Routes still available” means. And what, if any, future for POIs.

Was there detail “below”?

you can check here https://www.suunto.com/en-be/Content-pages/suuntos-digital-services/

David Young

@Prenj Yes, you’re right, I must have been looking at an imported route. There is no elevation data for a route created in Movescount.

I’ve always been impressed by the accuracy with which my Traverse tracks Movescount routes on the ground. But if they’re not maintaining it then maybe it’s time to move onto an alternative route creator.

Egika

@David-Young said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@Prenj Yes, you’re right, I must have been looking at an imported route. There is no elevation data for a route created in Movescount.

I’ve always been impressed by the accuracy with which my Traverse tracks Movescount routes on the ground. But if they’re not maintaining it then maybe it’s time to move onto an alternative route creator.

what in “routes still available” is so difficult to understand?

Fenr1r

@Egika It can mean:

A map on which to create & view routes
An account library of prior MC-created/imported/move-conversion routes
A simple function to transfer imported routes to the watch

No. 3 seems the minimum to fit the statement

Not necessarily No.2. And No.1 has been hobbled for some time.

sebchastang

Hello,

Does anybody know if Suunto custom apps data is now synced into Suunto app for Ambit/Traverse watches ?

Thanks.

freeheeler

@sebchastang
I would hazard a guess and say no, why: I gave my A3PS to a good friend and he uses it as I set it up (with Ambit apps) and none of the values recorded are available in SA.

sebchastang

Thanks for your feedback TELE-HO!
I knew it wasn’t supported few month ago but I 've been hoping SA would be improved to support it since MC shutdown is now scheduled on February 9 2021. I’m sad to lose those data

freeheeler

@sebchastang
I am not sure if this will be left out in SA integration but I doubt it. Ambit apps where MC and Ambit specific. I think (?!) it’s still possible to set them up in “what’s left of MC” in a few days. Since it’s not possible to set them up with SA it might me a feature that is going to be obsolete some time in the future

sebchastang

@TELE-HO
I also hope it would still be possible to set up the apps in MC but I’m interested in the data of those apps. It’s currently only supported through moveslink2 <-> mouvescount.com.
SuuntoLink doesn’t transfer suunto apps logs and nothing seems to be planed to support it.

freeheeler

@sebchastang
I assume this is the way Suunto wants users to upgrade.
I know the watches aren’t inexpensive by far! I did the step while I was bored sitting at home recovering from getting a bunch of screws in my elbow… I accounted it as entertainment expens back then and I do not regret it.
While I enjoy the newer Suunto watches, I absolutely understand everyone who would like to stick to their older models. I also think it is a question of how green a company wants to be… it is definitely also a waste of resources if you replace a 2-3 year old watch that would actually work easily another 2-3 years.
Just to mention, my wife upgraded to S7 recently as she wanted a swimming mode and a reliable OHR. I did the S9B upgrad 1.5 years ago. We both gave our Ambits to good friends/relatives for a second life and we would much appreciate if their Suunto experience is that great, that they might buy Suunto again one day, rather than buying any other brand because of disappointments now…

sebchastang

@TELE-HO
Sure, I also would appreciate a S9B, but as my watch is still fully functional (no hardware or software issue) and it perfectly fits my needs, I don’t see why I should upgrade.
Thanks again for your answers

@sebchastang said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Hello,

Does anybody know if Suunto custom apps data is now synced into Suunto app for Ambit/Traverse watches ?

Thanks.

As far as I am aware, after contacting suunto support: apps data will not be synced to suunto app.
At least that is the current info/status.

POIs
Routes
Training plans
Apps
Will continue on the movescount website.

No workout creator available (was present on movescount iOS/android app)

Although a lot has been written, I guess in the end the transition is much better than it was in the beginning: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/01/suunto-announces-decommission-plans-for-movescount-platform-impacting-some-watches.html

For me it is ok, I will be enjoying my watch without worries.

freeheeler

@André-Faria
I’ve had an app that simply calculated the ascent in m/min into m/h and I setup MC to show me the m/h value instead of the m/min value… it is a minor thing, I know. But it was so much better to read than the default m/min value… at least in the groups I discuss and the tour information I read, the unit is always m/h… in SA it is m/min again and not adjustable
in QS @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has set it up so you can select in the graph what unit you would like to see …by the way, Dimitrios, did you check if it is possible to show in the overview the ascent rate for ascents only? that was another ambit app I used to use and it was great to see for specific (where applicable of course) climbs, how fast you were “climbs only”.

@TELE-HO said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@André-Faria
I’ve had an app that simply calculated the ascent in m/min into m/h and I setup MC to show me the m/h value instead of the m/min value… it is a minor thing, I know. But it was so much better to read than the default m/min value… at least in the groups I discuss and the tour information I read, the unit is always m/h… in SA it is m/min again and not adjustable
in QS @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has set it up so you can select in the graph what unit you would like to see …by the way, Dimitrios, did you check if it is possible to show in the overview the ascent rate for ascents only? that was another ambit app I used to use and it was great to see for specific (where applicable of course) climbs, how fast you were “climbs only”.

Did you send message to suunto support about the unit stuff?

We all have minor stuff that would like to see not going, or being implemented.
For me, considering the initial decision from Suunto, I am fine with the decisions made, at least I didn’t end with a paper weight.
Ok some features were removed, but thats life. Nothing is eternal.
At this point I think it is worthless to ask more features/implementations regarding the ambit/traverse line.
And all that can come is for sure a bonus.
But it is valuable that we turn our needs into feature requests for future app versions/watches or find a solution.

freeheeler

@André-Faria
I did send this request (m/h) to Suunto as an improvement suggestion. The answer was something like “I’ll forward it to the developers but I can not promise if this will be implemented”.
So it is a very very static “discussion”.
I see the chances much higher of things getting implemted when we discuss things in here. @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is THE wire into Suunto and even though he can’t do magic and is also waiting for things himself (sometimes stategic decisions), it is the best chance to bring the watch and app further

I don’t understand why SA only shows m/min. Most likely because it is the unit for mountain runners. But e.g. paragliders would prefer m/s and hikers, backcountry skiers m/h.

Suunto is somehow slow in that regard and is blocking themselves… when people ask me about SA I said some months ago: well, it’s crap, but you can use it for watch settings (S-line…) and sync to your favourite 3rd party service. Now I must say (after about 1.5 years!), it definitely is progressing and improving and I consider it useful to a not insignificant extend… but it is still far from: THIS is what I MUST have.
If you want “THIS”, use QS! It’s not extremely fast (maybe due to my slow laptop and phone) but things work and things are being pushed further. It’s a one-man show, yes. No long decision paths, no meetings, just coding and testing. SA suffers a bit from the disadvantages from bigger RD&E teams and the company structure. Like ANY other product in the world. But this we don’t recognize since the products usually are released when they are complete and tested and fulfil the target customers needs

surfboomerang

@TELE-HO said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

The answer was something like “I’ll forward it to the developers but I can not promise if this will be implemented”.

It’s a pretty standard answer. They send one to me too, but I’ve never heard a follow-up.

Janfi

I’m trying to use Suunto Apps to setup structured workouts when Movescount app will be killed.

My app is OK on the App zone on Movescount. When I try to sync it to A3P with Suuntolink, the app is not transfered and there is nothing on the watch. I tried with Moveslink2 and no problem, app is transfered and can be used on the watch.

Did I miss something ? I’ve understood that Suuntolink replaces Moveslink2 for A3P settings.

Thanks.