The sad demise of Suunto into Apple :(
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@Fenr1r Ultra mode on the ambit is not accurate in distance not even compared.
that said its silly to debate on such and issue.
we are not trying to ādegradeā the ambit but those (including the spartans) if you didnt walk / run / bike in a straight line have inaccurate modes for distances. Do they have a use ? Sure to know roughly where you have been. And that is ok.
So yes the battery life for a normal use of the watch of ambit is ~18h max (as the S7 without fused track and in most activities and little usage + the Spartans).
However the s7 can go further but also in running itās less than 18h wihtout a fused track. That is due to much shaking etc. long story.
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@Fenr1r I meant ultra as āOKā mode, but that is not the point.
My point is that all watches have different functionalities and also their proās and conās. Which could fit the needs of @Michael-Carson if we know exactly what he is looking for.
As I read his post, he is looking for a highly customizable endurance watch. The S7 is highly customizable with the apps, the S9 has good battery life. But both watches donāt have a combination of them.So maybe a Garmin Fenix would fit his needs, but we need to know what kind of apps/datafields he is looking forā¦
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos āSilly to debateā? Heresy! And the OP didnāt specify what was meant by āenduranceā. As @surfboomerang last posted.
Sure to know roughly where you have been. And that is ok.
āOKā was the word I used.
āRoughlyā can be superior if āenduranceā means duration.
Take an S7 and an A3P out for a multiday hike. Just the watches, not watches+charger. The comparison was about watch battery life.
Keep walking for seven days. Record your daily moves.
Sync your activities and look at the resulting tracks on a map. Or the stats on a QS graph.
Which watch served you for most of that trip and which was dead weight for most of it. Which was more accurate in total distanced walked?
You know how you find it hard to see the necessity for >10m altitude accuracy? Well, 2min fixes are an adequate trade-off for 200hrs.
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I wont continue here. Its difference usage. Sure in āexpeditionā mode A3 is better. But the OP doesnāt ask that from my understanding
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@surfboomerang Absolutely on all counts. And I could be as wrong about āenduranceā as I was (probably) about āSpartan Ultraā. But just in case ā¦ clarification seems worthwhile.
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@Fenr1r Just to mention another limitation of the Ambitsā¦there is no possibility to sync offline so once you fill the watch memory you will lose recording data. If you are out for more than 200h and have no internet your hosed. The Spartans and S series will sync offline as long as you can keep a phone charged allowing you to record as long as you want. So Iāll argue the S9 wins here.
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@Brad_Olwin I see your point and youāre absolutely right with your specified circumstances. However, I would make 2 objections: it depends on what you are recording and the presence of the (charged) phone.
If youāre not recording HR data and that table of yours from the other thread applies, you remain unhosed (thermal leggings excepted) for the duration.
Phones (and chargers) carried on activity were not included in the original comparison. (Althought the S7 was - and that you will have to re-charge to match even the S9ās life.) Firing up BT and screens on both purely to xfer activities is going to take a hit on battery life.
For those happy to make that trade-off in weight/battery life, however, that is a massive S9 win (along with all the extra 'net-free settings adjustments and S-style route-creation and Android POIs).
But for longer, simpler (if oneās OK with that), lighter (w/o phone): the A3P still stands tall.
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@Brad_Olwin said in The sad demise of Suunto into Apple :
@Fenr1r Just to mention another limitation of the Ambitsā¦there is no possibility to sync offline so once you fill the watch memory you will lose recording data.
Didnāt the ambit 3 have offline sync . Seem to remember having that when I went hiking in 2016(ish).
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@Aleksander-Helgaker
yep, the 3 and 3p are BT.
I guess here the discussion is more āgeneralā and related to āofflineā sync.
MC app sync wasnāt offline, you needed to be connected to the web. -
@surfboomerang said in The sad demise of Suunto into Apple :
The suunto 9 does everything the ambit does except apps.
AFAIK there is no real structured workouts feature on newer Suunto watches. And as a āreliableā partner, Suunto decided to remove this feature and throw it to trash for A3 owners , except with Suunto Apps, which is something really different in easy to use terms function.
So yes, when Suunto removes some valuable features on the Ambit line, we can see that S9 does almost everything that ambit does.