Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto

[Luís Pinto]

@chrish We will see this solution greater each step. With new chipsets, (4100) “… reduce power consumption >25% and bring extended battery life to the platform.”, imagine with 5nm cpu process (qualcomm 4100 is 12nm…), and new graphene batteries.

I think would be great for S7 users to use also S+ add-ons. Suunto should use work already done for S5 and S9 and migrate to android OS. There are ressources very useful in S7 that wearOS brings.

Some people complain about the screen at the sun. Here with amoled technology there is not much to do.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Luís-Pinto I do not want everything to go Android, as an iPhone user, I find Google Assistant on the watch works perhaps 1/4 of the time. 3/4 of the time the watch can’t figure it out and states Google not available (it is) or simply does not respond. This is for setting a simple timer. Compared to Apple Watch OS it is a joke. I would rather not have all watches hobbled to Wear OS and I doubt they will be.

[Luís Pinto]

@Brad_Olwin Imagine people that want buy a AW… But, but, oh they need to have a iPhone. Google have to make much more to bring wearOS to other position.

I’m not a android fan, but on these days user experience is more and more app experience than OS.

Is more easy programming in proprietary OS or Android?

In initial S7 days i was not a big fan of concept. But i saw potential.

[chrish]

@Brad_Olwin Not my use case, but point taken. I want a watch that will last for a week or two, turn it on for a couple hours of GPS navigation as needed. S7 and WearOS is not going to provide that. The OS is going to eat that in a few days. How long will an S7 run just laying on a desk…if it’s a month, then OK.

[chrish]

@Luís-Pinto said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

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Yup. Graphene is the future. As soon as my ceramic coating wears off my car, gonna smear it w/ graphene

[Fenr1r]

@chrish said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

Yup. Graphene is the future. As soon as my ceramic coating wears off my care, gonna smear it w/ graphene

You could also have some on a bagel, if you’re not watching your carb.

[chrish]

@Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

You could also have some on a bagel, if you’re not watching your carb.

I suppose it could be edible…but I think I’ll pass. Car stuff is super strange, it comes out of the bottle black, goes on and dries clear. The future is now!

[Brad_Olwin]

@chrish You can put the S7 into PowerSave mode, it will show date and time and last for probably a month without a charge. So there is a workaround but I think no smartwatch will have the battery life you desire for a very long time. I top off my S7 when I shower, I used to when I drove to work. The watch charges fully in 1.5h so charging is not that big a deal. I can easily get 4h outdoor exercise/day and all day wear with the S7, just charging above as I stated.

[chrish]

@Brad_Olwin Yep, agreed, that was my point. No smartwatch will currently do that, Apple, WearOS, etc. Only smart-ish devices like the S9, Coros, A3P, and blah, Garmin are going to last that long on a charge sitting doing nothing. So the original comment I made, the S7 isn’t an truly outdoor oriented watch, stands. Yea, it’s fine for a day activity, maybe 2, then you need juice. I can run my A3P, or if it had the couple of extra features I need/want, an S9, for a whole week on a charge. That’s my definition of an outdoor watch, but maybe our definitions differ…which I think we’ve definitely established already in other threads/posts.

[Brad_Olwin]

@chrish if I only could have one, it would be the S9. Meets my needs better than any other past or present Suunto watch.

[isazi]

@Brad_Olwin in fact I went back to my S9 for every day wear now. I will certainly switch back to the S7 soon, but I will miss true 24/7 heart rate monitoring and sleep tracking.

[chrish]

@Brad_Olwin definitely. I’ve been lusting for an S9 baro since they came out. Will be my next purchase. The bearing lock feature almost sold me but with the poi rumors, I’m definitely on board in the near future.

[fazel]

@Brad_Olwin Amen.

[Brad_Olwin]

@isazi So, I wear the S7 during the day, workout with typically two or three watches that usually includes the S9 and S7 and sleep with an S3 (small and light). I like having my night HR, more informative than resources or sleep quality but I’ll take those too. The S3 is great for sleeping and I tested the following: Hard workout wearing S9 Resources from 86% to 25%. Strapped on the S3, which started at 50% (since I was not wearing it) but ended after a few hours near where the Resources should be ~30% prior to sleep. So, I just switch watches willy nilly. Would like to have the S7 track Resources, Sleep and HR too. The image below is wearing the S9 and switching to the S3, the jump to 50% is the S3 and the following image is nighttime to this morning with the S3, when I then strapped on the S7 again.

[Bulkan]

@Brad_Olwin I’m using cardiogram in the s7 and export the data to csv and import it in Apple health using a shortcut, it is a bit slow but works. I like to have my heart rate data in Apple health, with the s9 it works, but not with the s7 (google fit instead of suunto app).

About working out with two or three watches, kudos!

[Jamie BG]

@chrish - would be interesting to see if the Casio option wouldn’t work.
Believe it can extend it tracking out to around 2 days and does it by only taking a gps fix every couple of mintues.

Also you could take a battery pack with you - its not a lot of extra weight and as Brad pointed out, it does charge quickly.

But agree its still the biggest issue of smartwatches compared to fitness watches in that in smartwatch mode battery life of fitness watches are superior, but then they don’t have the same level of connectivity.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Jamie-BG said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

@chrish - would be interesting to see if the Casio option wouldn’t work.
Believe it can extend it tracking out to around 2 days and does it by only taking a gps fix every couple of mintues.

Also you could take a battery pack with you - its not a lot of extra weight and as Brad pointed out, it does charge quickly.

But agree its still the biggest issue of smartwatches compared to fitness watches in that in smartwatch mode battery life of fitness watches are superior, but then they don’t have the same level of connectivity.

I would not mind seeing another FusedTrack option “Expedition Mode” where one could get 2-3d of tracking. Not sure running the screen would allow this, but perhaps in this mode the screen could go dark rather than showing exercise details and only wake on button press, similar to the S9 Endurance mode.

[Jamie BG]

@Brad_Olwin and or just push it into the background, can then use suunto button and home button to see and put back into background when required.

[chrish]

@Jamie-BG @Brad_Olwin

I would definitely like to see Suunto add an Expedition Mode like the horribly expensive Garmin Marq model that does that. Great feature. But not paying $1700 for a GPS watch that’s disposable after a few years.

I do carry a small battery pack. But its small to keep weight down (I’m an oz counter) and I pretty much exhaust it keeping my phone charged for photos and video. The watch requires minimal I know. But having to charge it every day over 5 days, I’d probably opt for a second tiny battery pack. The A3P is just hard to beat. Under a trip with heavier expected use use (my definition of heavier use) I’ll definitely have to take a battery along with an S9B I expect.

I’ll have to check out the Casio. But I’m pretty much a “Suunto fanboy”.

[A Former User]

Sorry to bring back this topic.
I was digging on Suunto partners and saw Nolio, which if I remember correctly was referenced in this video.
Just to confirm: It is still no possible to plan moves/strutctured workouts in these partners and follow them on watch right?
Just for me to understand, when you “plan” a moove in Nolio or TP or other, what does happen on the watch? (I believe only available for S series).