Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks for your patience. It’s been a while and a couple of months ago I was indeed under the impression that Ambit devices would lose a lot of functionality. But a lot was vague and some stuff is still vague right now. I’m only just back here. I was under the impression that soon enough, my training log from my Ambit 2S would soon enough no longer be synchronized. Last Wednesday I noticed the Ambit 3 series were discounted and decided to buy the Ambit 3 Peak. I’ve also got a Spartan for over two years now (the one that resembles an Ambit watch) but always continued using the Ambit 2S for the more intense training sessions. I received my Ambit 3 yesterday but after reading through the forum I got a bit worried that Ambit 3 would no longer be supported either, then to find out that the entire Ambit will continue to be supported over the cable. So my Ambit 2S would remain just fine. But eventually I decided that I really like some advanced features of the A3P that my Ambit 2S lacks so I think I’m keeping it and I’ll take it out for a blast on the mountainbike this evening.
I think a lot of traffic on this forum is because a lot is unclear. I’ve been going through the support articles and this is what I can make of it. There still are some questions left. Could you clear them up?
Watch:
- fitness test (does it log to Movescount or App?)
- barometric data (does it log to a webservice too?)
SuuntoLink:
- GPS updates
- upload training data
- download routes etc
- POI created in the watch, uploaded to the app or to Movescount?
Movescount:
- watch setup
- route creation
- apps? (like, the ones that actually run on the watch)
Suunto App (the phone thing)
- analysis and display of training data
- smartwatch functionality (phone notifications to the watch)
Am I correct there? Also, could you clarify something about the ones that got a question mark ;)? Some of these are unique Ambit 3 features and I haven’t found any mention of them in the articles on the Suunto website. Most notably the “apps” functionality. The ability to write and modify apps to then be run inside the watch.
I’m probably the odd one out here who isn’t worried about the (current) lack of full wireless data transfer, instead I’m more excited to learn that the data transfer over the cable will continue to exist.
Thank you!
Vinay -
I hear you all guys. I don’t take anything personally nor do I say I don’t wont to hear you.
However, I wont argue anymore in terms of what is right or wrong.
I am with you, have always been and it just makes me also feel bad every time I have to read another person having an issue with this.
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@vinay said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:
Watch:
fitness test (does it log to Movescount or App?)
barometric data (does it log to a webservice too?)SuuntoLink:
GPS updates
upload training data
download routes etc
POI created in the watch, uploaded to the app or to Movescount?Movescount:
watch setup
route creation
apps? (like, the ones that actually run on the watch)Suunto App (the phone thing)
analysis and display of training data
smartwatch functionality (phone notifications to the watch)You have it right there.
I only don’t know about apps. I also don’t know (read) if they are going away. I feel positive about the apps not going away but that is 0 knowledge and just my opinion/feeling
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@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:
’m really sorry for being so negative and I apologize for annoying many of users here. I’m just very disappointed in Suunto.
No need to apologize nor to say differently. I truly understand you.
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@Prenj
meanwhile I gave my A3PS to a very good friend of mine and I would not have done that if my recent conviction was that A3PS is going to have functionality removed.
For an experienced A3PS user there will be some changes but neither my wife who is used to Ambits even longer than I am it was not a big deal so far and my friend is also very happy with the watch.
My wife would buy another new Suunto right away… once her Ambit breakes she is most likely up for another Suunto.
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@TELE-HO once her Ambit breaks? So you’re saying never
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@isazi
basically… yes
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Ambit 3 Peak
S9B:
I think my S9B has Parkinson’s disease.
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@lexterm77
S9B has a nervous sony chip set submerged somewhere in the watch…
A3PS has an I don’t remember what chip set right at your wrist with this superb antenna…
but to be honest: if you stop comparing you’ll find your inner peace with S9B and start loving it
the reason is: there are so much more important things than mm precision of GPS… e.g. a working fridge with cold beer on a hot summer night… cheers fellas
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@TELE-HO said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:
@lexterm77
S9B has a nervous sony chip set submerged somewhere in the watch…
A3PS has an I don’t remember what chip set right at your wrist with this superb antenna…
but to be honest: if you stop comparing you’ll find your inner peace with S9B and start loving it
the reason is: there are so much more important things than mm precision of GPS… e.g. a working fridge with cold beer on a hot summer night… cheers fellasI don’t hate s9b, I just can’t stop liking A3P
I hope next gen does not rely as much on algorithm filtering for position but in higher quality signal. You can’t have both battery life and precision. And thats why I am keeping both.
Cheers!
Chip is SirstarV
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@lexterm77 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:
I just can’t stop liking A3P
that’s a nice one!!
yes, you’re right, sirfstarV…
battery of S9B is much smaller than A3PS from the capacity… hence it has to have the compromise to save energy somewhere… -
@TELE-HO it’s the same with cell phones nowadays. You can do everything with them but no one uses them to ring people. You can do everything with the s9, but just the a3p is the real gps watch with the Sirf antenna
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@lexterm77 I don’t know how these were compared but unless they were worn on the same arm on the same day the comparison is not a reasonable one. The GPS signals can differ and if worn on opposite arms that can make quite a bit of difference too. So, how were these two images generated?
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@Brad_Olwin said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:
@lexterm77 I don’t know how these were compared but unless they were worn on the same arm on the same day the comparison is not a reasonable one. The GPS signals can differ and if worn on opposite arms that can make quite a bit of difference too. So, how were these two images generated?
Same arm, one day difference. I have about 40 activities that match this small climb to what used to be a rail bridge over river, stairs are narrow. Sample size is small nevertheless evidence is emerging that all my S9B activities are zig zag if you zoom in, regardless of years or months recoded. All my Ambit routes are smoother, and closer to the stairs on satellite image.
This is signal to noise ratio showing the cost of having low power chip does impact quality if signal. Specs are actually published by semiconductor manufacturers in their technical specifications, can’t find the link but at some point I will compare them just for fun
There is no such thing as a free lunch, Ambits have 500mAh battery S9B 250mAh if I remember correctly.
Ambit3 antenna is overkill, I just can’t stop admiring its conservative engineering where “good enough” is just not good enough. -
You are kidding right ? What’s not good enough about it. Are you a chartographer or something ?
We are getting out of scope here let’s move on a correct thread and not polute here.
Sure many a3p fans will dig out tracks that have nice precision but real testing tells otherwise.
I have a huge db of tracks and not only me, Suunto and testers etc.
That said I am personally tired about this thread popping up in each irrelevant thread.
Somehow it feels like humans won’t ever be satisfied and they always need football teams arguments while being a couch coach.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos exaclty, if my watch can help me navigate safely in the wild then I really don’t care about 5 m here and there. And that’s good enough for me
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Well, the “stripping” of the movescount site and the re-branding to something like “Ambit Link” could be also made to the mobile app without so much cost for support.
As also said many times before, the only thing that matters is money/monetization, but if Suunto counts the so many angry loyal customers who won’t trust Suunto to put their money in it’s next watch flagship, maybe it evens up (or down?).
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@mlakis That is my case, clearly. Since my Ambit 2, I never thought of changing to another brand. Muy trust, however, has been so eroded with the Suunto attitude, that I am considering a competitor, rather than buying a S9B. And not fo the fancy/useless things, S9B is a hell of a watch for my purposes.
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When riding a couple of mountainbike laps with the Ambit 3 Peak, there is some obvious deviation too. Nothing to worry about, it isn’t like I don’t know where I’ve been. It is merely to get an impression of which sections were tough and in which lap, rather than for it to be pinpoint accurate.
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@Efejota said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:
@mlakis That is my case, clearly. Since my Ambit 2, I never thought of changing to another brand. Muy trust, however, has been so eroded with the Suunto attitude, that I am considering a competitor, rather than buying a S9B. And not fo the fancy/useless things, S9B is a hell of a watch for my purposes.
Then why not buy an S9B??? It is a great watch and is still undergoing updates. The recent improvements to the app show that Suunto is very interested in leveraging their fantastic heat maps and routes to SA, IMHO better than present in MC. On iOS it was not possible to use a web browser and get routes to work, I had to use a PC. I love the new iOS features on SA. My wish is that we get offline downloadable routes and maps for an area we designate…that would be killer and no other sports watch manufacturer has this.
