Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result

Egika

@MatthiasKlug said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Brad_Olwin said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

The Suunto App allows you to add and change screens for sport modes and set up custom sport modes.

How do you do that, add a display? -just a general question, I personally am totally fine number of displays-
When generating a custom sports mode I can:

change a display

delete a display

(add a display only if I deleted a display in advance)

In other words in a custom sports mode the number of displays is limited. (e.g. in running to 4)
I can not create a custom running sports mode with 5 displays.
And all this is only true for custom sports modes, the (standard) sports modes are not editable.

You are correct with all you write (intervals would be another display). This is how to create custom sport modes - now what is the question? How to add a 6th desplay? Not possible as you found out.

RiphRaph

@Bryan-Cook For the moment at least, it is possible to use Suunto App on the phone and Movescount on the web, provided you don’t touch routes or watch screens in SA. I believe you can restore your access to Movescount Web by hard resetting your watch – but please research that before you try anything, because I’ve not done this myself.

SA is always going to suck because it’s a phone app, simple as. Admittedly it’s an improvement over Movescount APP, but nothing that forces you to use a tiny touchscreen is ever going to be an adequate replacement for a web frontend. It boggles the mind that Suunto doesn’t seem to realise this.

RiphRaph

@Mathias-Spoerr “Why do they force users to using the App although it is limited and not ready yet?”

They have a death wish? If they follow through on their intent to kill Movescount Web this summer, I expect to be using Garmin or Polar before the year’s out.

Brad_Olwin

@RiphRaph I totally agree that a Web interface is needed. That is why we have QS, which is free! And many other 3rd party Websites that import data from SA and offer functionality that MC did not have and likely would not have developed. I cannot adequately track training stress in MC, nor could I plan workouts easily, it was somewhat cumbersome. I can do that now and I can draw and plan a route on any device I want, it is dead simple to sync to my watch. In my opinion opening up to 3rd parties was one of the best decisions Suunto made.

northeast_trekker

@Brad_Olwin what is QS that you refer to? Thanks.

Brad_Olwin

@Matthew-Pierce said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Brad_Olwin what is QS that you refer to? Thanks.

Developed by our own @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
https://quantified-self.io/
Check out the forum too:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/3490/quantified-self-io-the-topic-for-qs-discussions/740

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zvonejan

@Egika said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Mathias-Spoerr said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

I know and I read the threads in advance, but I am wondering why Suunto doesn’t listen to its customers?

They do!
They just don’t follow every single person’s advice, as these don’t all match.

…ammm and the most voted topic is…?

Egika

@zvonejan said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Egika said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Mathias-Spoerr said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

I know and I read the threads in advance, but I am wondering why Suunto doesn’t listen to its customers?

They do!
They just don’t follow every single person’s advice, as these don’t all match.

…ammm and the most voted topic is…?

Dunno who voted. All of Suunto customers? Or some nerds that are so freaky to join a forum of a watch brand? 🤪

Brad_Olwin

@zvonejan said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Egika said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Mathias-Spoerr said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

I know and I read the threads in advance, but I am wondering why Suunto doesn’t listen to its customers?

They do!
They just don’t follow every single person’s advice, as these don’t all match.

…ammm and the most voted topic is…?

…and…as stated by Dimitrois
"I think I need to iterate this over one more time. Voted topics are presented in the cross-chanel consumer feedback and are taken into account for feature prioritisation / weight.

However that does not mean that because a topic has 1M votes it will be implemented.

I hope this is clear.

Typically in these long threads, people come back to add little value since there is none to be added here except voting. About 859 comments (or more) have I think covered the subject of a webinterface."

Can we please stop beating a dead horse and move on?

RiphRaph

@Brad_Olwin No. Just no. I’m sure QS is a very fine interface, but Movescount Web was a significant factor in my decision to purchase the Spartan and arbitrarily discontinuing the service without offering an equivalent alternative is just not an acceptable way to treat customers. Even TomTom still has its sports watch web interface up and running – and TomTom is no longer even developing wearables!

Opening up to third party services may have been a great move on Suunto’s part, but scuppering its own web interface is an absolutely terrible one. And I really don’t see that this necessarily had to be an either-or thing. They could have given their customers both options in parallel, at least for several years.

RiphRaph

@Brad_Olwin Absolutely. Moving on in the next few months, or possibly weeks. The only question is whether to Garmin or to Polar.

@Brad_Olwin said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

In my opinion opening up to 3rd parties was one of the best decisions Suunto made.

Sure, no doubt about it, but the worst one is to move its customers to a platform that doesn’t offer the same basic feature set as the old one

Navigator

@RiphRaph said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Brad_Olwin Absolutely. Moving on in the next few months, or possibly weeks. The only question is whether to Garmin or to Polar.

I’m a hiker and In anticipation of Movescount going I’ve stopped using both my Ambit and Ambit 3 Peak and been ‘experimenting’ with Apple Watch with WorkOutDoors.
Wont be going back. WorkOutDoors is a stunning App. If you have an Apple Watch you’ve just got to try

sartoric

@Navigator
Out of curiosity, how many hours does the Apple watch battery last using it for navigation ?

jsuarez

@RiphRaph said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Brad_Olwin No. Just no. I’m sure QS is a very fine interface, but Movescount Web was a significant factor in my decision to purchase the Spartan and arbitrarily discontinuing the service without offering an equivalent alternative is just not an acceptable way to treat customers.

Amen to that. While QS is great, it is not an official feature.

Navigator

@sartoric I’ve got an Apple Watch 4 Cellular. It obviously depends how you use. I don’t refer to the vector mapping all that often as memorise my route well before I start off. Do use optical heart rate. After about three hours into a walk the battery on the watch is down to about 75% remaining

Mathias Spoerr

@Egika The most wanted feature is a Web Frontend, so I am wondering to whom they are listening.
The Alpine Skiing issue is a bug and should be fixed anyway, but in MC I was able to workaround this bug…
And I do plenty of Ski Touring the whole winter

zvonejan

@Mathias-Spoerr said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

@Egika The most wanted feature is a Web Frontend, so I am wondering to whom they are listening.

That is easy. They listen only to themselves more or less. Do not know what they do with this votes for WEB frontend and how they disscus about that in internal meeting with product managers and developers

sartoric

@zvonejan said in Migration to Suunto App in 04/2020 and very unhappy with the result:

Do not know what they do with this votes for WEB frontend and how they disscus about that in internal meeting with product managers and developers

Please all, try to stay in topic
The “features votes” subject has been already deeply discussed in several thread (last comment from @Brad_Olwin quoting @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yesterday) and it’s useless to start again here.