Suunto 7 - Is it worth buying?
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I actually bought a WSD-f20 last week as it was on sale here in Germany (160€). After ~1 week of usage, I am actually happily surprised. The battery life is very good for a Wear OS watch: nearly 2 days with Wifi and Bluetooth ON and the GPS trying to get the position every 6 minutes. Always ON eats the battery though, as some Watchfaces. Speaking of Watchfaces, I only use the Casio ones, they are very nice (but very Casio, so still miss Suunto here).
The offline maps seem to work fine and the GPS as well. The altimeter is surprisingly bad compared to Suunto or Garmin, it probably needs to be calibrated often. The watch does not differentiate at all before changes of pressure and change of altitude (it’s basically the exact same curve
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Very cool stuff is that the tools can use the LCD screen (something I found out today). With the WSD-30 you can also have the sensors info in the timepiece mode (so with Wear OS off).
The screen is very good but not super easy to see in the sun. The 2nd LCD screen the opposite, super nice in the sun, very hard in darkness
In term of Activity, it is a Protrek, not a Suunto: it will not show much info, also not record much info. What you get at the end is a summary and a KML path.
So a very cool watch, and probably one of the best Wear OS aside the Suunto 7
At the same price, I would buy the Suunto TBH. -
my review is first. do not buy pro-trek f-21
I compared track with suunto 9
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Hi all,
I am still considering to purchase S7, but I have few main concerns.- battery life, it seems to be too short
- activity tracking…seems that Google Fit and integration to that is not working well and I just hate Fit.
-Sleep tarcking is missing. I do not want to use third party app and I would like to have all fitness activities such as sleep, steps, sport activity etc. collected to same app, preferably to SA.
Pros
- possibility use different apps
- maps
- good loking watch
I am still considering to buy S9. There are good discount on S9 at the moment, but it might be in the end of lifetime as well what comes to SW updates etc.
Any rumors about S10 or any other watch after S7.
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@Toni-Kotiranta It wont be the end of features / updates for the S9/S5 if that bothers you.
Just helping out here.
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@zvonejan I don’t know if you kept the watch, but most reviews recommend to not use “Moment Setter”. It is very buggy and seems to slow down/crash the watch as well.
What you show in the video is very typical of Wear Os, not only Casio, and I also encounter that. But when in an Activity, it’s reasonably fast. Not sure if the Suunto is better on that, as it seems to be mostly Google fault.
I also did not buy the watch for a very high price, and for developing on it. For the current price of the F21 or F30 I would not buy them, even to develop on.
Ah, and the GPS trace was good for me, once in an activity (otherwise it is either every 7 minutes or every minute). Not as good as Suunto or Garmin (once indoor went very crazy), but good.
But it seems that you have a new activity app (in the video so), and the one on the D20 works better than that (actually had no issue with it).
Once again it is much more a Protrek than a Casio: simple altimeter/barometer, unfiltered GPS (but also seems to be very low power). -
@Alain-Becam said in Suunto 7 - Is it worth buying?:
@zvonejan I don’t know if you kept the watch, but most reviews recommend to not use “Moment Setter”. It is very buggy and seems to slow down/crash the watch as well.
I have a Suunto 7, maybe I want new functionality, specially with suunto app integration, but I can say mine is not buggy, not the watch per se neither the Suunto wear app. Rock solid.
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@Bulkan Moment Setter is an optional companion app to configure it. You can actually do all that on the watch, and it’s ergonomic enough. Quite weird to have such an app not behaving well, especially when basically useless, but so I can live without it.
Aside from that the Casio does not really have a companion app like the Suunto. It is not an activity tracker out of the box.
And I don’t have any issue with the watch myself. Only part randomly annoying is part of Wear OS. It could be because the watch has “only” 512kb, when the Suunto 7 has 1Mb. From what I read 512kb is not enough for smooth operation of Wear OS.
At the same price (like the WSD-30 and WSD-21), the Suunto 7 seems to be a (much) better offer. At the price I paid, the Casio is very good compared to other Wear Os watches at similar prices. -
No. I did not keep the watch. ‘Home’ application from any company is a mirror of their vision and stability. I tried also locus on protrek, accuracy was perfect, but that app uses gps from phone. Tried also viewranger, and it was quite good. The protrek 21 has a good look, but materials feels like cheap plastik, display is soft and bends a lot. I like a complete ecosistem from a watch (setting for watch, creating a route, uploading moves to web) and then I will decide to which third party i will transfer moves (preferring to none)
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@zvonejan Agree about the application, and as it’s totally redundant with the watch app, it makes no sense for them to release something like that. The GPS is simply not consistent. I went out together with an Oregon 300 (old for sure but with a good GPS), and the watch did actually perform sometime better than the Garmin, and the map definitively more useful on the watch (without routing, that the watch don’t support). But at other times it is not very good. Yesterday I could see on with side of the road I walked…
I think they don’t care much with that in their software, they want something that works quickly without eating too much battery. Like their barometer (altitude is often wrong by 30-40 meters), they are more indicative tools. But when I looked for an ABC watch 10 years ago, it was already the case, which is why I went to Suunto with a Core. I don’t think Casio are good for tracking, they are more to help you out, it’s a different approach (and one that combines less happily with Wear OS I would think). They could (as sometimes it is very good or with other apps), but they don’t
The material is resin with mineral glass, so if you bent your screen you probably broke it too :). And resin is normal Casio material when they want something light and strong. You might have had the impression it is not robust, but it definitively is (MIL-STD-810 compliant, like the Traverse). But you might indeed expect less plastic with this price (the original ~400€). They probably did it to keep the weight reasonable, but still. Actually the only difference between the WSD-F20A and the other WSD-F20 is the plastic armband attach, and the A is like 100€ cheaper, so maybe the metal is really super expensive for Casio
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Thanks for the replies folks.
I actually did a full u turn a bought something completely different. I went into Go outdoors and came out with an Ambit3 Peak…
After owning a couple of Garmin watches with power hungry displays with all the bells and whistles, I thought id have a look at going back to raw basics with a solid tried and tested watch that focuses solely on the outdoors with a solid construction and decent battery life.
I bought it thinking that I could take it back within 28 days so could get a refund if I didn’t like it. After having a play for a few days I absolutely love it! It feels solid and more of a proper rugged abusable trail watch rather than a smart activity tracker watch. I can just leave it on with no concern about the battery and it does everything I need.
Ive now realised the features that the ambit doesn’t have from my last garmin were actually a little gimmicky(to me anyway)…………. the weather forecast was never accurate, 24/7 HR was was absolutely no use to me whatsoever (so therefore wrist hr was pointless) and I never really bothered with the daily tracking features like steps,floors,sleep etc.
Thanks again for the replies and if anyone has an ambit3,i’ll no doubt speak to you in that forum.
Gaz
