Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???????
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@margusl I also have the AMBIT3 PEAK watch.
But i bought “a better one” and i think this is a key trainning. The suunto 9 has a structured workout, but we can only make, for example, 3x400 with 1.5minutes interval. Nothing else. If we want to make another training like 6x800m we have to stop the watch. and start over. It’s the minimal stupid. -
@goncalot3, it was just a reply to sartoric.
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@margusl said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:
@sartoric , yes it [the app] does.
https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_ambit3_peak/suunto_ambit3_peak/features/interval-workouts/
https://www.google.com/search?q=suunto+workout+plannerAs far as I know, we have interval training, but not structured intervals, which is basically interval training on steroids.
Interval training as it exists on the watch allows you to set times for a simple on-off training with repetitions. For example:- 3 min warm-up (20% - 50% FTP)
do this before triggering the interval training - 6 x (2 min 70% FTP + 20 sec 100% FTP)
trigger the set interval training with OFF-ON interval - Suunto won’t even let us switch these, it is always ON-OFF for Suunto and these intervals look funny in summary and description - 3 min cool-down (50% - 20% FTP)
switch interval training off
A structured interval training lets you mix up things and do something like this:
- 5 min warm-up
- 30 sec effort / 3 min recovery
- 30 sec effort / 3 min recovery
- 30 sec effort / 2,5 min recovery
- 30 sec effort / 2,5 min recovery
- 30 sec effort / 2 min recovery
- 30 sec effort / 2 min recovery
- 30 sec effort / 1,5 min recovery
- 30 sec effort / 1,5 min recovery
- 6 min cool-down
These are just simple examples, I have plenty where these came from and use them for my cycling training. Right now I have to resort to a phone app to do these as my Spartan is of no use here at the moment.
- 3 min warm-up (20% - 50% FTP)
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@goncalot3 said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:
@margusl I also have the AMBIT3 PEAK watch.
But i bought “a better one” and i think this is a key trainning. The suunto 9 has a structured workout, but we can only make, for example, 3x400 with 1.5minutes interval. Nothing else. If we want to make another training like 6x800m we have to stop the watch. and start over. It’s the minimal stupid.No, Suunto 9 does not have structured workouts, only simple interval training, read my post above.
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@fejker said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:
@margusl said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:
@sartoric , yes it [the app] does.
https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_ambit3_peak/suunto_ambit3_peak/features/interval-workouts/
https://www.google.com/search?q=suunto+workout+plannerAs far as I know, we have interval training, but not structured intervals, which is basically interval training on steroids.
well, I got bit carried away. Should have been: “MC app does have support for real structured intervals, but only for Ambit3.” or something like that.
MC current implementation might be bit cumbersome for building e.g pyramids or structures where you don’t have constant targets through repeats (decreasing recovery time from your example), but it’s still a great solution. Whoever designed that UI/UX should be awarded (no sarcasm) and I never really understood why that gem was hidden away in the the app like this. And why it was never accessible though MC web. It’s like they didn’t want too many people to actually use it …
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@fejker I know that. My question is WHY and WHEN THIS watch have this update.
Does not make sense.
What i what with this post is alert SUUNTO. -
@goncalot3 trust me, they have been “alerted” many times and many years. It is until people stop buying their watches, they will finally realize how they are wrong.
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It’s the number one (edit: actually the only thing) thing I’m missing, for now I just wear an old Polar watch on the other wrist when the complexity of the workout means I frequently look down at my watch and do some arithmetic
To be fair, I never checked to see if the feature was available before I bought it, I kind of assumed it was going to be there, d’oh!
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@goncalot3 i respect that Suunto don’t want bring SI for their models. I think it is a error, but ok. But the actual solution with Simple intervals is incomplete. I think that is not so much work to add in watch the possibility to custom assymetric values distance/time. Then exist a one more possibility, import from other platforms like TP a workout, like @Brad_Olwin in past show as possibility.
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If/when I replace my Ambit3 it won’t be with a Suunto watch unless this has been implemented - even the ability to import workouts would be adequate as I can create them in Trainingpeaks. I do wonder if Suunto are considering something like an auto-import from Trainingpeaks instead of interval creation in the app/web - with the ‘gold partner’ scheme they have for 3rd party systems.
If not then something like Sigma’s ID.Tri is looking very tempting as a replacement.
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@Luís-Pinto I don’t have TP and i don’t have to have some app that i have to buy to do somethink that a SPORTWATCH should do.
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The web interface and structured intervals were (and still are) the first and second requested features if you sorted by votes… well you can see how much progress has been made on either of those…
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Really?
a simple search on the forum could have produced this result: https://forum.suunto.com/post/38014Among the information material of suunto, related to 9, you have not found references to structured training, so I do not see why you have to raise the voice for a function that you want but has not been declared available. There are a thousand other watches that have that function, if needed, buy one of those. Just pollute this forum with structured trainings, if Suunto hasn’t done them so far there’s a reason. You may like it or not, but it’s a fact.
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I think I agree with most of the posters above. I really cannot understand why Suunto is thinking about Triathlon sport mode and not be aware that any decent Triathloner will be thinking about doing some complex interval training. I really don’t think there is so much complexity in coding that in the firmware…
To me Suunto neglecting this area is really inconceivable.
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@jsuarez said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:
not be aware that any decent Triathloner will be thinking about doing some complex interval training.
Because probably decent and serious Triathlete do it without using a watch … my guess, I’m not a triathlete and not even a runner
Looking at Suunto’s Ambassadors I guess they evaluated this topic
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@sartoric
my wife runs marathon and has ambit3r but she does all intervalls and trainings out of her memory… but she has a proper training plan from a running guide -
I was bought a Suunto 9 for Xmas and while it’s a fantastic watch, I’m going to have to return it today and change for a Garmin as it doesn’t have structured workouts. I don’t get this at all, it’s such a key feature!
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@margusl So just to confirm, these MC structured workouts will only work on Ambit 3 and not Suunto 9?
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@Mat-P That seems to be the case but those structures could only be programmed through the movescount app which has been discontinued and removed from android or Apple stores.
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@Mat-P said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:
@margusl So just to confirm, these MC structured workouts will only work on Ambit 3 and not Suunto 9?
Correct, this - https://youtu.be/YXLLde55klA - has only worked with Ambit3. And as @jsuarez said, MC app is not installable directly from app stores, so I guess this feature is not officially supported anymore, even for Ambits. Though it still works. And as MC app installation seems to be disabled through region restrictions, it still is (or at least was last week, on Android) downloadable from play store with the help of APK downloaders.
