Share your experience with the Suunto app here!
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos right, I understand the idea of not focusing on reputation, but people with many, many followers are telling every day, non-advanced users there is a major problem with Suunto devices and to steer clear. I’ve advised 3 people this year not to buy a Suunto until the dust settles, and I’m sure many other tech people that others rely on for informed decisions are doing the same. Suunto can choose to ignore that fact, but perception is reality whether you believe it or not.
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@ChubbyCrusher Can you elaborate on dust to settle?
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For me, the dust will settle, when I have a clear understand of what devices will be supported going forward, syncing to third party services actually works reliably, and all the data on my device is synced and able to be retrieved from my device. I personally, can do without a Suunto managed site as long as things work as well as they do from the Wahoo app and there is a easy way to get the raw data from the device. For others (a lot it seems based on the topic on the forums), not having a central, Suunto managed site is a deal breaker.
All in all the dust will settle when we know what Suunto is doing. It feels like they are not focusing on their outdoor users (maybe that’s just my POV), but maybe they are and just haven’t gotten around to supporting us very well yet. Like so many things in life, communication would go a long way here. Back in the old days before all this agile stuff happened, software companies used to have road maps they could share with their customers what the next few months looks like. A road map showing what will be supported and what won’t at the very least would be fantastic. If it had some kind of general time lines, even better.
I’m annoyed with all this, but my feeling is in a few years time, I’ll be able to buy a Suunto device with confidence. Right now, the software side of all this is clunky and missing major features, so I’m not willing to point people towards the eco system, even if I believe the hardware is some of the best available.
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@ChubbyCrusher
while i completely agree with you and a lot of other very good forum contributors with a lot of watch and SA knowledge… i notice that i read the “same” topics again and again from various members with different words and sometimes different weighting depending if they are mountaineers, urban athletes or ultra athletes etc…i think suunto is working on that and what we need is a huge load of patience…
i’m convinced they don’t spend their time doing office chair races or pencile spinning challenges
living sideways
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@TELE-HO yeah, I’m sure they are hard at work. I think this is more a symptom of modern software development and the “easy come, easy go, I need it now” way of life these days. I personally appreciate craftsmanship, well thought out executed software and features, and less features that are high quality and targeted. The same goes for bikes for me. I’ll spend way more money getting a locally sourced, hand made bike, where I can actually talked to the people making it and I know they care about every frame that leaves their shop. I know I’m in the minority, and honestly, I’ll be leaving the software industry soon over it. These days, it’s all about “what can we get out in a 2 week sprint”. Quality, testing, and customer engagement be damned. That blame has to be shared by consumers though. We demand features now!!
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@TELE-HO
Just to write that you have my vote for your latest post.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:
@Alexander-Beck are you threatening us?
I don’t know if a single user can be a “threat” to a company of that size. But if you consider “negative feedback in public space” as a threat: hell yes, I will publish negative feedback, and the reason stays the same.
Without the features the web page offers being ported to the mobile app, you are crippling my property. I still miss essential features the Ambit 3 currently is offering, and I don’t see any updates from Suunto concerning this issues (despite 5 months since my last comment here):
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upload of programs to add more functionalities. Example: the GPS display in Swiss coordinates. without the watch cannot be used with any Swiss map and also provides no real help in emergency situations.
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changes and rearrangements in the displayed data in training modes plus adjusting the GPS parameters. Especially the GPS parameters are critical. If the watch runs out of battery because GPS is draining too much power, the watch is unusable. And yes, there is a difference in 100h vs. 10h max runtime. And yes, adjusting the displayed data is also essential.
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Adding/removing training modes.
Your opinion might be different, but I see it as critical loss in the reputation of a company if they decide to drop essential features of a watch which costs 300 Euros or more, and for me it will be my last Suunto in that case (plus the negative feedback you will get in future, plus a watch sent back because of the statement “Satisfied or your money back” on the HP).
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@Alexander-Beck
dimitrios said in another thread we’ll have an update in october… let’s see -
@TELE-HO
i don’t get it, will ambit3 will get a new update at oct?Winners Wear Winners
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@zhang965
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@Saketo-Nemo
oct there will be a new firmware for s9 as wellWinners Wear Winners
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@zhang965
my understanding: suunto will tell us their next steps or plans… in the context: what happens with what watchesliving sideways
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@zhang965
Yeah, seems like this -
@TELE-HO
yeah i know, but like usual, we should not carry too much wishes -
@zhang965
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@TELE-HO said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:
@zhang965
at least we can stick to the same wishes for a long timeWTF, no, never even, wishes will prosper, wishes is a divergent series,
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@zhang965
only when a wish is fulfilled… the next comes… and the next…
ambit users rest on their one wish and while they wait they become unambitious, that’s good for suunto
living sideways
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@TELE-HO said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:
@Alexander-Beck
dimitrios said in another thread we’ll have an update in october… let’s seeIf the Ambit3 finally gets support, I will stop warning others that they should think twice if they want to buy a watch which is officially listed on the web page of the company (and not a long time discontinued one) but has a high chance of having its functionalities crippled. I wouldn’t care if we would talk about 50 bucks only, but this is not the case for a product with this price tag and no statement of the company of discontinuing it.
And based on what I have seen on reddit, I am not the only concerned customer who don’t like the approach:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/blstbn/why_i_wont_be_recommending_suunto_products_any/ -
@TELE-HO said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:
@zhang965
only when a wish is fulfilled… the next comes… and the next…There is a clear difference in having a wish fulfilled or having existing functionalities removed from a product. We are talking about the second one here. The watch offers the functionalities, the current software solution also does, the new one doesn’t.
I don’t want new features, I just want the existing ones.
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Just like healthy men has thousand wishes and sick ones only one…so the Spartan and S5,9 users have thousand wishes and Ambit ones only one
…myself being an exception…for my S9B I wish only POI/Waypoints and structured intervals
