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    Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration

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      johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @mario_b
      last edited by johann.fuehrer

      @mario_b same opinion. Somewhere at 1 h 15 mins after start it started to look ok.

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        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks 👍 . Again, sounds logic.
        After my test that I described below I have this doubt: you know with which frequency the S9B take samples of the barometer to calculate and show the altitude? or which is the frequency that update the altitude displayed?

        I made a simple test using the S9B, Mobile with barometer and Samsung Gear Frontier. I went downstairs one floor (~4m difference).

        1st try: S9B not show differences even after ~20sec or a bit more. Mobile and Gear displays the -4m variation instantly, the altitude on these both devices is continuing updating almost on each step that I do down.
        I went up. Mobile and Gear displays the variation of +4m. S9B again no differences. After around 5 minutes, I see that the S9B display me a -4m difference (wrong), looks like displays me the value from when I was down, but do not register that I went up again.

        2nd try: Mobile & Gear again displays correct results instantly and continuously. S9B: I decide give more time waiting on each floor. After few seconds or minute waiting on the lower floor, start to display me a variation of -3m, after few minutes I get the -4m. I went up again, +4m after few seconds or almost a minute.

        Results: Mobile & Gear displayed correct value all the times and instantly. S9B worked tricky. One time showed me a correct result but maintained the difference error created on 1st try. 2nd try was perfect, but need sometime to show me the correct values.

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          johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Guest
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          @flypg I have read about some threshold value which must be reached until an altitude change is recognized by the watch, I think it was about 3m or somewhere in that range. Maybe this kicks in as well …

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            A Former User @johann.fuehrer
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            @johann-fuehrer Thanks, yes, this is why I would like know with precision to understand a bit more the watch. I think that also exist some timelapse to process this or display this and this results in the “delay” that I see to display the information.

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              mario_b @Guest
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              @flypg if it’s the same algorythm that is used in the ambit3 peak for automatic mode then:
              When in watch mode, it messures every 10 sec. if you move up/down more then 5 meters in elevation (around 0,6hpa) in 3 minutes, it switches to alti-mode. when your are moving less then 5 meters in 12 minutes the watch switches back to baro-mode

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                A Former User @mario_b
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                Thanks @mario_b! Now I can understand for what on 1st try the reaction not was immediately and I got better results on 2nd try.

                it messures every 10 sec

                Wow, I imagined that should be a lower value, by this I expected a faster response in the update of the altitude readings. But really not need a faster update in watch mode, because for this I have the Sport Modes.
                Thanks to everyone again!

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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                  @flypg it counts higher than 3-5m variations in 12 minutes. If you would go a bit more low then both devices should react the same.

                  That is to wipe out pressure changes as we talked before

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                    https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Support/Product-support/suunto_9/suunto_9/valid-for-barometer-version-only/outdoor-insight/

                    If you are at a constant altitude (less than 5 meters of vertical movement within 12 minutes), your watch interprets air pressure changes as weather changes and adjusts the barometer graph accordingly.

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                      A Former User
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                      Thanks again to everyone!

                      Yes @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos, this explains that on all my attempts I generated a altitude variation > 30m in less than 12 minutes (because I went up and down several times more than the 2 tests).
                      The only that is not totally clear is the variation of 1st try that the S9B not registered this +4 of when I went up.

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                        johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have a Spartan Ultra: I’m sitting at the moment in my office at 214m above sea level. I know from the weather station on my altitude just some 2km away, that we have 2015.4 hPa at 30 C temperature. My watch shows me 2021 hPa. If I like to have a correct pressure reading, I would have to change the altitude to 165m. SO how can I bring this together to see correct altitude AND correct pressure?

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                          @flypg said in Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration:

                          If you are at a constant altitude (less than 5 meters of vertical movement within 12 minutes), your watch interprets air pressure changes as weather changes and adjusts the barometer graph accordingly.

                          🤦
                          I published this myself a couple of weeks ago
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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @johann.fuehrer
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                            @johann-fuehrer is it sea level pressure? Can you give me now a coarse location (town)? I can look that up for you

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                              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                              https://www.zamg.ac.at/cms/de/wetter/wetterwerte-analysen/wien/luftdruck/?mode=geo&druckang=red

                              It’s Vienna and “Wien Unterlaa” is the station I mentioned …

                              https://www.zamg.ac.at/cms/de/wetter/wetterwerte-analysen/tawes-verlaufsgraphiken/wien_unterlaa/luftdruck/?mode=geo&druckang=red

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                                johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos … and yes, it’s seal level pressure. Local pressure is about 993 hPa

                                You can switch in the pressure chart caption!

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                                  A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration:

                                  Lets keep an eye on this.

                                  I think that I understood some extra… On my workings days I use a lot the stairs. This results in variations of more than 5m in less than 12 minutes, that result that my watch change to alti-mode. When I have a weather change the pressure variation is assinged to the altimeter and by this I see this big changes on the altitude… can be possible or I´m totally wrong?

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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                                    @flypg On watch mode there is no mode

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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                                      @flypg for indoor activities there is automode

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @johann.fuehrer
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                                        @johann-fuehrer yeah I see the same from my sources indeed looks like the watch is about 6hpa wrong right ? There is a tool that can calibrate the abs pressure but unfortunately only support can do that.

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                                          johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is there any support here in Vienna which can do this?

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                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @johann.fuehrer
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                                            @johann-fuehrer I am not sure 😕 I am very far away (in terms of internal comms) with support stations etc

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