Incompetent graphs

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Yannis-Belouris said in Incompetent graphs:

@ColdBeer
My two cents.
Let’s assume SA does not exist. I will personally revisit in 6 months and reconsider. I have totally bought into the suunto ecosystem. Currently have 5 watches.
I am not expecting miracles, nor am I happy with the general direction.
BUT, there is nothing we can do. At least in this forum. FB and other social media are a different thing. No-one can silence us over there.
We tried voicing our concerns and we are experiencing a backlash.
Let’s leave it as is.

Can you explain to me how :

We tried voicing our concerns and we are experiencing a backlash.

That is all you understood from all this?

I even have started to ack most of the requests and shared that all development is Stewart towards your votes on this forum.

I am now really down about this personally.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Yannis-Belouris said in Incompetent graphs:

No-one can silence us over there.

I am very mispleased to read this… Who has silenced you? Can you explain? In detail

estevez

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

@ColdBeer to be honest i understand but i dont understand how saying the same in every possible thread can help. I would like yo hear other user opinions as well. Why dont you give space to others to be heard and have to monopolize with your opinion ?

Well, my opinion is very similar to @ColdBeer´s.
However I will give Suunto some more time… I take SA as beta app, which is in development, and I hope Suunto will work hard to make it usable. What I am concerned more is Ambit3F full (sic!) support (incl. activities / watch settings, custom apps, etc.) + web environment.

ColdBeer

@estevez Answer if you want: when did you test for the first time SA beta?

estevez

@ColdBeer I have been using it cca 4-5 days (I know it´s a few days), however I am using Movescount.com primarily…

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

Hi all,

I can acknowledge that new charts and fullscreen will be in the next betas to arrive here.

Do you want some sneak peak?

ColdBeer

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs: Do you want some sneak peak?

Are you joking? Sure!

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

The above is FullScreen FYI (click to zoom)

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

Also horizontal view

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

Same for analysis

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

There are other goodies as well

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

We listen, we do listen to the users and we do our best to deliver.

If that does not meet your requirements for x,y reason then it’s ok. At least we try our best

remib

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

There are other goodies as well

Hi,
Any chance that it works with Ambits 3 ?
Thanks for the news anyway

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@remib no not yet any news for Ambits. We got tons of feedback that ambits do not like / want the suunto app so there is alignment first to be done

Mff73

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

There are other goodies as well

So Helsinki is about 2490km from Pyrénées .
Enjoy pal and thanks for the news.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Mff73 thanks man. Its far ain’t it? And cold too But to be honest, its not that much as imagined.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

BTW the time in the charts, in regards to prev conversation it’s linear as it should be.
In my screen above I worked out for 46 minutes to putting 4 segments on the chart should be increments of 46/4 = 11,5 minutes as seen

remib

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

@remib no not yet any news for Ambits. We got tons of feedback that ambits do not like / want the suunto app so there is alignment first to be done

Can you explain what do you mean by alignment ?

Nb: if you “push” a little ahead to Gavarnie, you might get the cold you expected

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@remib Gavarnie looks fantastic!

I cannot share more on this subject, also different thread is needed. A quick example would be that a lot of Ambits 3/ Traverse have issues come connectivity issues from our feedback so #1 prio is to make the basics right for them before we jump to maps etc, where more people end up having connectivity issues trying to use features they would like to.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

above is FullScreen FYI

cool, goes into right direction, suggestion: can we normalize the x-scale to full/rounded integer instead current granularity of e.g. (your example here) 23:11 as half/50% of the total training duration? This didn’t add any value to an end user glacing on a 5 inch screen and creates unnecessary noise on the x-axes labels. Rather would prefer normalized value on x (aka comparable buckets of the plot) like 5/10/15min or 2/4/6/8min that is easier for comparing and didn’t add this noisy level on the graphs with the 4 digits , if I want second-to-second accurate data I would go anyway into the detail map view

Polar flow or movescount web/old mobile app does this as well *see below some examples)

current SA (lot of digits on axes, not normalized):

movescount web (rounded full integers, normalized):

old movescount mobile app (normalized):

Polar flow (normalized):