Tide table on vertical 2
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That’s the tide widget not working again in my location. After its update on Sunday it has not updated any data since then.
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@MikeC30 Hi, I have exactly the same problems than you, living at 200 meters from the sea in Brittany (France).
It will be nice to understand how this applet is working. Is there an API authorized to refresh the tides table only for a (too !) short period ?
Can someone explain how should work this applet ? Can we verify and understand the sources somewhere in Github ?
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@bruno.tanqueray what do you need to know? Data source and refresh window?
Suunto might use Github as their code repo, but we’ll probably never see it, as it’s proprietary code containing their trade secretes.
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there are some things special with tides.
But basically, if you open the widget, it should at least trigger a sync, that then should update tides the next time, the phone syncs.
Provided, you have location permission for SA in your phone on. -
Sadly, this does not work, again. Given that other people are also having this issue, it makes me think it is probably a Suunto issue that needs fixed by them and not a user issue.
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@MikeC30 this is well possible.
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@Ze-Stuart Yes: data source and refresh window, plus the trigger logic.
To be clear, I am not asking for the source code, I know it is proprietary. I am asking for the documented behaviour of the widget, which is not a trade secret.
Why it matters: this thread is going in circles. We are all asked “location permission? tapped update? synced?”, we all answer yes, and then it stops. Without knowing what the widget is supposed to do, we cannot test anything, and Suunto cannot get a useful bug report from us.
My case: Brittany, France, 200 m from the sea. Sometimes tides load during a normal sync, right after the weather. Most of the time nothing loads. Same phone, same place, same procedure : the result is random. And when the widget is empty it offers to sync with my Iphone, but the app does nothing because the watch is “busy”, so that button seems useless.
What we need to know:
- Which provider supplies the tide data?
- Is the tide computed for my GPS position, or for a reference port that may be far away? (The watch only shows a region name.)
- What triggers a refresh : opening the widget, a phone sync, a background schedule?
- Is there a cache duration or a request limit per day? That alone could explain why it works once and then stops for days.
- What is the official watch/app sequence? If we follow it and it still fails, it is a bug, not user error.
Thanks.
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bruno.tanqueray said:
@Ze-Stuart Yes: data source and refresh window, plus the trigger logic.
To be clear, I am not asking for the source code, I know it is proprietary. I am asking for the documented behaviour of the widget, which is not a trade secret.
Why it matters: this thread is going in circles. We are all asked “location permission? tapped update? synced?”, we all answer yes, and then it stops. Without knowing what the widget is supposed to do, we cannot test anything, and Suunto cannot get a useful bug report from us.
My case: Brittany, France, 200 m from the sea. Sometimes tides load during a normal sync, right after the weather. Most of the time nothing loads. Same phone, same place, same procedure : the result is random. And when the widget is empty it offers to sync with my Iphone, but the app does nothing because the watch is “busy”, so that button seems useless.
What we need to know:
- Which provider supplies the tide data?
- Is the tide computed for my GPS position, or for a reference port that may be far away?
- What triggers a refresh : opening the widget, a phone sync, a background schedule?
- Is there a cache duration or a request limit per day? That alone could explain why it works once and then stops for days.
- What is the official watch/app sequence? If we follow it and it still fails, it is a bug, not user error.
Thanks.
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@bruno.tanqueray I understand your questions.
Just you know this is a user forum, so everyone can only share what he/she knows.
I know that it works for me.
When the watch is connected to the phone (iphone in my case) and SA is running at least in the background, tapping the refresh button in the widget shows that tide data is being updated and it also shows success.I have no clue about your other questions. and I don’t know if anyone has.
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@MikeC30 same here - worked for two days and now nothing
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@Egika I don’t understand the way it works, as when I open the tide widget, and I open suunto app, it says it can’t sync because watch is busy.
I can sync only when the watch is in time. -
@matus69 I don’t even touch my phone. It is in standby.
Then I tap update in the widget, and the watch seems to fetch data via SA in the background.
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