HR broadcast to Wahoo not working?

UjcoCZ

@gkaempfer Suunto transmits via Bluetooth, not ANT+. There’s no issue with the Hammerhead, just FYI. I still don’t understand why you wouldn’t just use a heart rate strap and log everything on Wahoo, then transfer it to the Suunto app if needed. Yes, there’s still an issue with power zones and heart rate zones—specifically, their graphical display. But the data is transferred.

HonzaS

Vertical 2 shouldn’t have ANT+. My Roam2 shows and connect it as ANT+ and doesn’t show any HR.
On phone, it’s visible in BT devices but OnelapFit doesn’t see anything.

Mff73

@gkaempfer
The HR broadcast is using Bluetooth and not AnT+.
Normal that you didn’t see data if you try to use that Ant+protocol.

gkaempfer

@UjcoCZ It’s really simple: I want to see my HR during my exercise on a screen I can read without hazard during a mountain bike ride (e.g. on a single track). I don’t want to lift my arm from the handlebar for that. The integration of app isn’t that important. I’m fine with the Suunto app and it uploading to Strava.

gkaempfer

@Mff73 I guess that something misleads Wahoo to wrongly detect the Suunto signal as ANT+. My guess is that both Suunto and Wahoo could technically fix this. I would also guess that it’s a bug on the Suunto side given Wahoo works fine with other watches and HR sensors.

Audaxjoe

@UjcoCZ I also record on both. I like backup of having the two devices recording and also have waypoints for say a cafe on the V2.

Wahoo does not natively upload to SA.

I did consider the Hammerhead but for the type of riding I do the battery isn’t good enough. And I’m on my third generation of Wahoo computers and they have all been excellent.

UjcoCZ

@Audaxjoe I understand both of you, though I prefer simplicity—having two parallel recordings isn’t exactly that.
I get your love for Wahoo; I’d probably set waypoints on it and then use the RunGap app to transfer the data. It can even do it automatically.
He rides single tracks, where the heart rate reading from the watch is just as bad due to vibrations, so he uses a heart rate strap. He doesn’t primarily want dual tracking to have proof for his wife of where he was :).
He’s looking for a solution that doesn’t make much sense.

Audaxjoe

@UjcoCZ luckily we are all different. I am totally happy with my setup and it good to hear you like yours

gkaempfer

@UjcoCZ 1. Your comment is irrelevant. HR broadcast to a bike computer makes sense. Wahoo has popular bike computers. Suunto should work with them.
2. I don’t use a HR strap. My V2 works fine for me since the latest updates and HR is very reliable even when doing some rough biking.

raven

@UjcoCZ said in HR broadcast to Wahoo not working?:

@Audaxjoe I understand both of you, though I prefer simplicity—having two parallel recordings isn’t exactly that.

Two parallel recordings can have the following benefits:

One can be a backup of the other. In the event something weird happens (device OS crash, etc.) then you have a pristine copy. While likely not worth going out and buying a second device just for this purpose, why not use it if you have it?
Confirmation of various metrics. For example, those who wear two GPS watches on a running session can check the overall distance and paths each watch created. One will see this in testing with people like DCRainmaker, but again, people who happen to have two devices can compare accuracy.
Some devices prefer having sessions recorded with their own devices. For example, Garmin can handle a session differently if it was imported into Garmin Connect versus recorded natively on one of its devices. Imported sessions “wouldn’t count” for some of their summary metrics. Over at Apple, sessions can show “Active Calories” versus “Total Calories” with the latter including BMR (basal metabolic rate), but imported sessions show the same value for both categories. See this article for details:
https://lifehacker.com/health/active-calories-versus-total-calories
If one wants data in multiple places, then a native recording can be simpler to accomplish that than using apps like RunGap to do the importing, or worse, doing it manually by exporting from one device then importing to another. You mention “simplicity” above — isn’t it simpler to have a Wahoo device write to Wahoo and a Suunto device write to Suunto than to have an export/import situation in-between? One can argue either side of that.

I dual record with Apple and Suunto, and at one point just used Suunto, but Suunto’s export to Apple Health gave me running sessions without map data. In general, Suunto’s support for writing data to Apple Health is suboptimal. Meanwhile, if I want ZoneSense data on my runs, I need to use an external HRM with Suunto — I can’t simply import an Apple recording running session and get this. So I wear a Polar H10 chest strap which sends two bluetooth signals. One goes to Suunto and gives me ZoneSense data, and the other goes to Apple Watch, and I get session data properly written to Apple Health.

Sascha Domres

@gkaempfer Same here