Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion
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@Jan-Suchánek people that consider flash light useless never use it, since my enduro 3 it became a key point in my buying process decision thus i ordered the vertical2 despite my love of MIP, I’ll give it a try due to the really good reviews and my love for this watch look (I always wanted to be able to wear a vertical as it is for me the best looking sport watch ever, They have redesigned lugs also and it was the reason why I sold my V1 and also my race 1
By the way not sure of any of you have pick this up in the Joaquim video but he say that end of year (maybe earlier) we will have offline maps in the suunto apps and could send route to the watch without any cell coverage : https://youtu.be/zrJHqpXZpqs?t=838 -
@Josaiplu Great, I hope some Suunto plus apps will be natively in watch in future. Like live track.
Also routable maps with more details like path colors, cities name, road labels will be fine. I used it in Garmin, if you know that you have to go on red path, it´s easy to check on watch. It will be great on 1,5" display like this. But Garmin has much more better country specific topo maps. -
@Jan-Suchánek While I share your view I don’t think that routable maps are something easy to achieve, Being able to easily distinguish road and trails, elevation curves, zooming out and keeping the trails visible while maintaining the current level of performance would be already awesome
I also think they will increase the number of s+ due to the new hardware (maybe to 4)
We’ll see what the future bring but I kept skeptical on routed maps (from the watch).
Maybe they could leverage the app that have offline maps to do routing and then send it to the watch while offline could be a neat pick
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@Josaiplu said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
We’ll see what the future bring but I kept skeptical on routed maps (from the watch).
Yes, the next step, if it will ever be, will be the labels, POIs and maybe colored paths.
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In my opinion, routable maps on watches are overhyped. The screen is too small to check or improve automatically generated routes. While this might not be a problem in the city, it’s worth checking routes on a larger and more responsive phone screen when outdoors.
Of course, they’re nice to have, but a much more serious problem with Suunto is the SuuntoApp lack of a true offline mode. You can’t download and edit routes, create a route, or share it with others, and you can’t use previous activities saved in the Logbook without first syncing them — which requires an internet connection.
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@maszop Did you check the youtube link I have posted ? it seems that this offline mode will came before end of year according to Joaquim. I never used the routable maps on my enduro 3 TBH so i will not miss the feature that much and I always run/hike/bike with my phone
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@Josaiplu After assurances about contour lines and map updates “by the end of the year”—I don’t remember which year that was
— I’m taking such assurances with a grain of salt. They’re currently nonexistent, and that’s a serious problem for watches designed for outdoor use. -
@maszop Understood ;D hope this “end of year” will be realistic so
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@maszop said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
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about a minute ago@Josaiplu After assurances about contour lines and map updates “by the end of the year”—I don’t remember which year that was — I’m taking such assurances with a grain of salt. They’re currently nonexistent, and that’s a serious problem for watches designed for outdoor use.
I’ve seen only one map update so far - the one the removed trails from higher zoom levels. Now trails disappear from the map before outlines of buildings, which is what we need for outdoor use.
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I received my SV2 yesterday and I must say it’s magnificent, especially the screen.
First night with it and the sleep analysis seems OK.
As for the optical heart rate monitor, it seems much more reliable and accurate (not to say perfect :-)) for everyday use, as I haven’t had the opportunity to test it while running yet…
Otherwise, the buttons seem less well adjusted than on the SV1, especially the middle one, which is less firm and moves a little, but maybe that will settle down over time. This gives the impression of a watch that is not as well made as the SV1, which feels really sturdy in comparison.
I also regret that it is not possible to duplicate the sports modes from the SV1 to the SV2, as well as all the settings. -
@Frederick-Rochette Indeed sports mode should be stored in suunto app and transferred from one device to the other.
Other point I noticed also is that the vibration of the alarm is a bit less strong than on SV1. But still enough to wake me up.
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@v.sacre said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
@Frederick-Rochette Indeed sports mode should be stored in suunto app and transferred from one device to the other.
Not sure if this will easily work. Different models (and different firmware versions) have different data available to be used in sport modes. Yes, this could be done with additional checks, warnings or empty fields, etc.
Just wanted to say that it is not a no-brainer. And evaluating how many times how many users are affected by this, maybe this feature is not so high on the priority list, as other things…t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S All Black / Titanium Courtney, Run Lime
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@Frederick-Rochette That’s how Coros does it. When you get a new watch you can either set it up as a new one, or restore previous settings stored from previous watches. It’s all saved automatically in the app, you don’t have to do anything, just press a button to restore.
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@OutdoorMan garmin also did it this way both allow to easily migrate or restore a watch and it is really convenient even if it is not a feature that you use often
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Does the Vertical 2 have Custom battery mode?
The Race series didn’t have it, only the Vertical, and the Vertical 2 is kind of like a Race on steroids, so I don’t know what it’s like. -
It may be interesting as well when doing hard reset in order to restore all user parameters and sports mode !
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@maszop No custom battery mode
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@v.sacre It’s a shame. It’s about the touchscreen settings.
Without Custom battery mode (or more specifically, touchscreen), you won’t be able to access some features.So, despite the name, the Vertical 2 is a bit of a remake of the Race. Just like the Race S.
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@maszop said in Suunto Vertical 2 General Discussion:
@v.sacre It’s a shame. It’s about the touchscreen settings.
Without Custom battery mode (or more specifically, touchscreen), you won’t be able to access some features.So, despite the name, the Vertical 2 is a bit of a remake of the Race. Just like the Race S.
As long as FW is the same than SR, SR2 and SRs, I wasn’t excepting any change about custom battery modes on SV2, for now.
Maybe new hardware and future FW will someday introduce that (and if so I would likely bet that It will not be possible to access such custom modes on SR and SRs). -
I am amazed that in my country (CZ), the Suunto Vertical Ti with solar is sold for more money than the new titanium V2.
