New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings
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@geolerigolo If you follow a structured workout (either created via Suunto App or external partners like TrainingPeaks), you don’t get any alerts. This is simply not implemented.
Whenever I am doing intervals I want a Polar. Sunnto wants you to constantly look at the watch (ok, they are really good looking) or train by feeling. While running it’s not a big problem, but try this with double poling (cross country skiing). Then it gets annoying. And with the SR it’s even more annoying, because you have to raise your wrist to see something on the display. This means effectively stopping double poling for a moment. And this sucks when you are going uphill. Who knows, maybe the Suunto gods will decide one day to make it really usable one day,
Workaround: For example, if you want to do 8x4min zone 4 intervals, create the interval on the watch and set a target zone 4. The alarm will go off in the rest parts of the training, but at least during the work part you also have the alarms. If you only want to do a recovery run or a long base endurance session, you could define a duration or distance target on the watch and set your desired target zone. That’s what I am doing.
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@wmichi No alerts at all when following a structured workout? That is definitely a big problem for me, as I switched from a Garmin Fenix 7x to the Suunto race because I wanted to do power-based structured workouts with Stryd, which I can’t really do on the Fenix as it can only be done via an app and not natively. If that is not resolved in a firmware update soon, I will have to go for a Polar watch, which is a shame because I really like the Race and Suunto app which is probably the best app I have used when it comes to training advice. Also the Vantage V3 has to be recharged more frequently as it has 8 days of battery compared to the 12+ days of the Race and you can only have 4 fields on the watch if I remember well…
I understand you so much because last time I tried a workout based on power, and power changes really frequently, if you are not careful it can ruin your workout…
But still I don’t understand why I don’t get the alerts when I select a zone on the watch before a workout. -
@wmichi Thanks for your advice! But yeah it’s just a workaround and not a real solution. I hope Suunto will make changes rapidly as it is important for customers to be able to follow a workout
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@geolerigolo You get at least an alert when a new phase starts (like warmup->work). Regarding your problem, that you also don’t get a sound/vibration when using a target zone: all I can think of is DND.
In my opinion structured workouts are best implemented on Polar watches. I like it, that it constantly beeps and vibrates, when I am out of the target zone. And I can follow a structured training without looking at the watch.
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@wmichi I’ve seen that during my last workout but it’s the bare minimum…
DND is only activated during nighttime but maybe airplane mode activates DND, that’s the only thing I can think of regarding my problem. I will try next time with airplane mode deactivated to see if it changes something.
Totally agree with you, it’s best implemented on Polar watches and also on Garmins. Except that on Garmin I can’t used Stryd zones
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Do we have to create custom sport modes for a new watch? Or Suunto did something on Race to transfer sport modes from other watches (s9pp)?
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@wmichi Just had a chat with the live chat support, not a really good experience this time. First time was great, but this time I felt like I was bothering the person I was talking to. I already had a chat with one of them 2 days ago about the problem I’m facing with the alerts. And this time I just asked the person if it was true that we don’t get alerts when following a structured workout and I was told I had already signaled the problem before… But that’s not what I asked two days ago. That’s those type of experiences that also make people change brands
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@Dušan-Ković said in New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings:
Do we have to create custom sport modes for a new watch? Or Suunto did something on Race to transfer sport modes from other watches (s9pp)?
You need to re-create them.
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@Egika ah, I hoped this will be backed up at some point… I’m recreating them third year in a row xD
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@wmichi said in New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings:
@geolerigolo If you follow a structured workout (either created via Suunto App or external partners like TrainingPeaks), you don’t get any alerts. This is simply not implemented.
Whenever I am doing intervals I want a Polar. Sunnto wants you to constantly look at the watch (ok, they are really good looking) or train by feeling. While running it’s not a big problem, but try this with double poling (cross country skiing). Then it gets annoying. And with the SR it’s even more annoying, because you have to raise your wrist to see something on the display. This means effectively stopping double poling for a moment. And this sucks when you are going uphill. Who knows, maybe the Suunto gods will decide one day to make it really usable one day,
Workaround: For example, if you want to do 8x4min zone 4 intervals, create the interval on the watch and set a target zone 4. The alarm will go off in the rest parts of the training, but at least during the work part you also have the alarms. If you only want to do a recovery run or a long base endurance session, you could define a duration or distance target on the watch and set your desired target zone. That’s what I am doing.
I believe if you create the structured workout in Suunto App directly vs a 3rd party import you will get zone alerts…I think
Really hoping this is something they fix soon
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@stromdiddily I have raised this a few months ago here: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9342/out-of-zone-vibration?_=1698948347504
I do not believe out of zone notification/vibration is implemented on any structured workout or Guide implementation.
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@altcmd I don’t understand how in 2023 alerts during workouts are not the most basic thing of watches. Every other major sport company has native alerts…
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@altcmd said in New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings:
@stromdiddily I have raised this a few months ago here: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9342/out-of-zone-vibration?_=1698948347504
I do not believe out of zone notification/vibration is implemented on any structured workout or Guide implementation.
Thanks for chiming in! I never create in SA directly so wasn’t sure on it
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@stromdiddily I just tried it out
There are no zone alarms for structured workouts created via Suunto app.By the way, another little bug: Wrong language in the guide screen. My watch is set to English, but the guide screen is German. Probably because my phone is set to German. That’s the same as with the turn by turn notifications. Those notifications are always in the phone’s language.
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I just had my first structured workout, and the fact that there are no out of zone alerts is a deal breaker for me. I’m gonna be refunding my Race.
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@FoleyRose Are you referring to audible alerts or vibrations?I believe the only options are to add heart rate or pace alerts with the color coded tachometer. I believe that is how garmin does it as well. I do believe i recall there are audible alerts if you pair headphones…i cannot swear to this
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@craigeggleton changing colour in the tachometer is not an alert in the same way changing pace and watch confirming the changed pace is not an alert. We are talking about an audible or vibration alert which Garmin, Polar, Coros and Wahoo have but guess who does not….
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Noticed that Suunto does not have a stride length field for running… thought this is one of the most basic running field which should be included. Will it ever be included ?
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@altcmd I don’t understand at all the choices that Suunto makes. They probably have the best and most accessible app but they lack some really basic things like alerts, though they include a structured workout section on the app. And even if it is better than nothing, most of the things that are Suunto apps should be native to the watch like NGP or the threshold tests or stride length, slope, drinking and eating alerts, HR zones duration, the safe app etc.
It looks like a really good watch with really poor functions. I also think if it is not resolved soon via a firmware update that I will have to go to Polar as alerts are really important to me (and for most of us I guess) and especially Stryd native alerts…
I really think Suunto is shooting himself in the foot not making these features native to the watch… And it’s a shame because the watch is really beautiful, as is the app, and it really has a lot of potential, but I don’t want to wait another 2+ years to have those basic things on the watch -
Can anyone tell me how firmware updates work for Suunto? Is there a monthly firmware update, are-there no specific dates, is-it quarterly?
