Sleep tracking bug ?

sashaklepikov

I enabled the sleep tracking feature from 23:45 until 7:00am.

This is unbelievable but I don’t see “Set the times for going to bed and waking up according to your usual sleep schedule.” like it is written in Suunto Race UserGuide So I have only toggle “Sleep tracking” without time. (Yes, then I have DnD time setting)

@ChrisA last night everything was tracked fine even with set minimum HR as resting HR (52 I think)

isazi

@sashaklepikov the Race does not need to set the usual sleeping time (only auto DND). In fact, it can detect sleep at any time (including naps). Old Suunto watches using the FirstBeat algorithms needed that.

ChrisA

@sashaklepikov great! - maybe it works without setting the HRs like I do. I did it this way, because it worked for me with other Suunto watches.

sashaklepikov

@isazi ah, okay, maybe user guide will be updated then (and this section was blindly copied from previous watches)

wakarimasen

@isazi Will this functionality be transferred to the 9PP with the forthcoming SW update?

Egika

@wakarimasen very likely

wakarimasen

Then I’m looking forward to it!

isazi

@wakarimasen not sure, sleep algorithms will change (no more firstbeat) but naps are (from what was revealed by reviewers) only for Race.

sashaklepikov

I’m probably already nitpicking but today sleep was tracked one hour less due to time change from summer time

What is more interesting - a nap was tracked very well yesterday. Even better than I expected

helgonet12

@isazi why is it only for race and not for vertical? Is it because of hardware differences or by decision?

Mads Hintz-Madsen

@sashaklepikov Are you sure? My Race added an extra hour to my sleep time due to the time change. It seems correct for me.

sashaklepikov

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen it looks like a presentation issue at one place.

Here you can see that sum of awake, rem, light and deep is correct — 7h 26min

But in the title it is 6:30h (it is even not the difference between 07:31 and 01:06).

And the same data on the watch — correct breakdown and incorrect “title”

Mads Hintz-Madsen

@sashaklepikov That’s interesting. As you can see below then an additional 1hour has been added to the total sleep time in the title.

One difference between you and me is that I fell asleep before midnight and you after midnight. Maybe Suunto hasn’t taken properly into account (when handling the summer/winter time transition) that someone might fall asleep after midnight.

isazi

@helgonet12 various reasons, at least for now it will be like this (it’s software, so this may change in the future)

Marius Jacobsen Eggerud

Second night with the Race. First night sleep was tracked very well. This night sleep wasn’t track at all, same settings.

Marius Jacobsen Eggerud

@Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud sorry, this was a mistake by me. Sleep was tracked very well even this night. I hadn’t given the watch time to register that I was out of bed.

isazi

@Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud the watch even adjusts the sleep a while after waking up (after being sure you’re up for good)

Marius Jacobsen Eggerud

@isazi Yes, realized that. Very impressed by the sleep tracking so far.

Pier Luigi Cingolani

Is there any information in what classifies a “nap” in the watch? Definitely had few naps and only tracked a really long one.

Additionally, am I the only one with quite inaccurate sleep tracking? I have to say, I am wearing my watch quite loosely, as it would otherwise bother me, but HR and HRV are really close to what my previous Garmin was tracking so I’d assume they are correct. However, tonight I went to bed as 11.30, SR said I was asleep by 1 (it was definitely before that, but that doesn’t seems a huge error tbh) but then tracked 3hrs as “awake”, when I clearly wasn’t.

ChrisA

@Pier-Luigi-Cingolani (I am maybe repeating myself ) but what have you set as your resting HR on the watch?