S9PP review from a non-target audience
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@Kowalski said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
It looks like it’s the post to bash the s9pp.
@freeheeler said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
I wanted to comment something very similar but would have been using the word rant…
well I am not a fan boy, I like to take all my investment seriously and as free man I am also free to criticize… but beside of that in this post you will see at least 10 points on which suunto 9pp could improve, and that’s what matters
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@Kowalski said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
Discuss it, ok, that’s why we are here, but ranting about small details, that’s not ok, people should take a step back and think. Is a watchface font really important ? Two misplaced pixels are really a problem ?
YES…now maybe you put your expectations very low, but please consider that other maybe would have a bit more quality, watch is not for free and for 499eur I do expect much more
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@A Former User Genuine question, since you mention expectations. You talked about the design of the watch before. Especially the bezel and the sound when you press a button.
What were your expectations? The general watch design is, I believe, fairly clear before purchasing it. The sound when you press a button perhaps less, though it has been mentioned in reviews (already for the 9 peak).
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@A Former User
I agree, I have feature I’d like to have too, but bashing the watch for some minor details or because it’s not the watch primary purpose is pointless. And the way of saying it too could be smoother.
And I’m not a Suunto fanboy, I purchased another brand to my wife, because other brand watch was better for her need.
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@el2thek said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
What were your expectations?
I guess I am shocked about how little has been changed in the positive way, from perspective that I am coming from SA3P after 7 Y of usage, and I would not like to repeat my self (have same opinion as Zhang) and I made my comments above what I don’t like.
expectation, well it should first work properly
@Kowalski said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
And the way of saying it too could be smoother.
No, it was smooth enough
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@A Former User said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
@el2thek said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
What were your expectations?
I guess I am shocked about how little has been changed in the positive way, from perspective that I am coming from SA3P after 7 Y of usage, and I would not like to repeat my self (have same opinion as Zhang) and I made my comments above what I don’t like.
expectation, well it should first work properly
@Kowalski said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
And the way of saying it too could be smoother.
No, it was smooth enough
this watch goes today back to amazon, long live garmin 7x solar saphire
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clap clap clap
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@A Former User hope it’ll meet your expectations.
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@el2thek said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
@A Former User hope it’ll meet your expectations.
thank you, if not I will just stay with SA3P as long is supported or else I will just use smartphone instead
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@A Former User Well…I think a lot of people think that they bought a spaceship instead of a watch.
I agree with others that your expectacions maybe are/were wrong, but not with the watch itself, more with the technology. Eventually all the watches have the same components (or similar), they get data, they process it and then they present it to you. So, in my opinion the sport/outdoor watches technology is very mature and do not expect any magic that will revolutionize the market, and this has been like that since the A3 or even before.
Right now the differences between watches and brands are: UI, features (how they treat the data that the watch has gathered), quality of the components… For the future I expect more battery life, better accuracy, less bezels, maybe some smart (software) feature, but not much more.
I can agree with you and others that Suunto has some basic functions that are a joke (like the timer function that is simpler than a 3 euros watch toy) and this usually left you with a feeling of getting less than with the previous model. But then, Suunto have others functions that are extremely clever and useful.
BTW you complain about the toughness of the watch but have you put it to test? I believe it is only your feeling, I want facts and pictures.
Then you say you expect more from the watch because of the price and latter you say long live to the garmin 7x solar saphire, here you have lost part of your credibility IMHO. It is like the people that say that iphone does better photos than a 200€ android phone, well I wouldn’t expect less. Hope you are lucky with your garmin, my Edge 530, in less than two years, has restarted middle activity, hanged, lost sensors and in consequence stored bad data, etc more times than my 3 Suunto watches combined in more than 6 years (A3, SSU and S9B).
BTW, I would like to know which are the limitations in development due patents (infringements and royalties), I’m pretty sure that we will be surprised. Now a days, patents, are a key part in any product.
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@cosme-costa Great answer. And the guy also says that he would “use the smartphone instead”. I mean that says it all. It’s nice that he has his opinion, everybody can have their opinion. But there isn’t much to take away from it. He clearly doesn’t have much to say from the constructive criticism point of view.
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@cosme-costa said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
But then, Suunto have others functions that are extremely clever and useful.
they are?
@cosme-costa said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
BTW you complain about the toughness of the watch but have you put it to test? I believe it is only your feeling, I want facts and pictures.
No, but you can hammer on your S9PP and then we can see what will happen, mine goes back to amazon…well, time will show, you will have probably some owners here who will post they experiences about it, me not.
@cosme-costa said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
Then you say you expect more from the watch because of the price and latter you say long live to the garmin 7x solar saphire, here you have lost part of your credibility IMHO.
well, in Germany we say: who buy cheap it buys 2 times (Suunto 9 PP is expensive in price, but cheap in all other ways)
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@Zdeněk-Hruška said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
@cosme-costa Great answer. And the guy also says that he would “use the smartphone instead”. I mean that says it all. It’s nice that he has his opinion, everybody can have their opinion. But there isn’t much to take away from it. He clearly doesn’t have much to say from the constructive criticism point of view.
well I am at least not so stupid to keep this low quality peace of recycled tech, sine I am not fan boy or bronze member
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@A Former User said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
well I am at least not so stupid to keep this low quality peace of recycled tech, sine I am not fan boy or bronze member
as …One can only wonder why you bought it in the first place then…
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@A Former User thanks again for you opinion it’s much appreciated
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@taziden said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
@A Former User said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
well I am at least not so stupid to keep this low quality peace of recycled tech, sine I am not fan boy or bronze member
as …One can only wonder why you bought it in the first place then…
probably expected after good experience with SA3P after a 7 Y that the 9 will be worth…but it’s not
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@A Former User said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
Kowalski said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
Discuss it, ok, that’s why we are here, but ranting about small details, that’s not ok, people should take a step back and think. Is a watchface font really important ? Two misplaced pixels are really a problem ?
YES…now maybe you put your expectations very low, but please consider that other maybe would have a bit more quality, watch is not for free and for 499eur I do expect much more
Expecting more was I slogan during my Spartan ultra/s9b age.
I still remember the discussion that we made for requesting vo2max on s9b.
But after my s9p, I enjoy the first phase of the product, you can see how Suunto reacts to stabilize their flagship watch time by time, it’s fun, and some exchanges are precious and worth the money. (But telling someone the difference between s9b and s9pp is worthless)
I’m sure s9pp will become stronger it’s why I highly recommend ambit3peak user to buy s9pp, it’s a totally new journey.
If there’s a new watch
I’ll be the first in line
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@zhang965 said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
I’m sure s9pp will become stronger it’s why I highly recommend ambit3peak user to buy s9pp, it’s a totally new journey.
:))) I like how you see the things, and hope S9PP will develop good, however I can not be a part of this journey
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@A Former User said in S9PP review from a non-target audience:
they are?
Fusedalti, fusedtrack… Tell me the ones in your garmin, without equivalent in Suunto. I hope you like your new standard of accuracy.
No, but you can hammer on your S9PP and then we can see what will happen, mine goes back to amazon…well, time will show, you will have probably some owners here who will post they experiences about it, me not.
I expect your video hammering the Garmin 7X, don’t worry for the price tag should resist, or not. I haven’t seen any complain of people with S9P (same case than the S9PP) about durability and the watch is in the market for more than a year so, again no facts from your side.
well, in Germany we say: who buy cheap it buys 2 times (Suunto 9 PP is expensive in price, but cheap in all other ways)
This again is your feeling/opinion, in my opinion a Coros Vertix 2 (I had one in my hands) or Garmin 9XX, both feel cheap/toyish in materials compared with my S9B but I’m sure are great watches and tough enough. Both are opinions not facts.
