S7 one hit wonder that will never see any updates!!!
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@Zoran-Z Pro 5 will be made of premium materials, we’ll see today. But anyway, I’d rather have smartwatch with good battery life and without critical issues, than good looking one.
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Bit of an unfair title considering that it received quite a few updates over a 16 month period that made some massive changes including continuous HR tracking, first beat sleep tracking, a host of suunto widgets, extended battery life while tracking etc.
Just go an read some older reviews and then compare them to DC Rainmaker’s review who did update his after a couple of the updates (but think he missed on some of the later bigger updates - never really went back to check if he did update them for that).
Effectively we did end up with a much more powerful watch approx 9-16 months post it launch.It is difficult to compare to current batch of watches considering how much the landscape has moved in regards to smartwatches and to a much lesser regard fitness watches.
Compare the S7 to the original ticwatch pro, the fossil gen 5, oppo and the galaxy watch 3 and fitbits and you find that its still very comparable - which was its market competition - don’t forget that outside of fitbit none had native sleep tracking including Apple Watch. In fact the AW and S7 got it around the same time and S7 was much more complete. Gen 5 was first native wear os to get sleep tracking. The issue is that other smartwatches like amazfit, huawei etc have just upped them game much more as costs etc go cheaper and they have leveraged their experience of using first beat to basically rip it off and create their own system (not sure how good it will continue to be and whether future development will be any good). -
@Jamie-BG Jamie, I agree with most but, it’s fair to say that it’s a still a one hit wonder because they dropped the updates all together. Take AW even. S3 will still be getting latest software updates.
Suunto can’t even be bothered to implement something as simple some new stock watch faces or a weather tile of its own. They heavily relied on Wearos which we all know it’s awful.
I do appreciate all the latest features like body resources, sleep tracking and score, workout recovery and live HR but I can’t help but think the watch could be a lot better if only Suunto wanted to keep this watch alive since there is no successor.
Cheers
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@Jamie-BG Yeah, it received few updates, but those mostly contained features which should have been there from the beginning, to be fair.
@BinoWorld-UK Might be partially due to old hardware. Even if they provided some updates, hardware is so bad it can’t compete with other smartwatches from last year onwards.
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@Metalmi Spot on you hit the nail on it’s head! Updates that should have been there since release.
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@BinoWorld-UK
we buy watches with the specs we know and everything on top is a bonus, right? I never buy something with the pure hope that eventually some feature is being added… ok… lock function
…but that’s it 
regarding no updates for stock function, I still understand S7 concept as a different type of watch where Suunto delivers the hardware with basic function and everything on top is open source…
don’t get me wrong, when I see your posts, I always think that you are happy with your S7 but at the same time you are scared you could become unhappy sometime, soon? no offence, honestly! I would enjoy the watch, since you seem to like it a lot (and it is a great watch!) and whatever you miss, search for it in the wearOS store
living sideways
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@freeheeler Correct
Really like the watch but very true we cannot have it all! It would be amazing if Suunto surprised us all. Perhaps I should stop looking at other brands and wish their features were in the S7 -
@freeheeler Quick question out of topic.
Does the S7 provide sleep score based on HRV measurement through the night or more like movement calculated through the accelerometer?
My understanding is the Body resources use HRV but was wondering if the concept is the same for sleep score?
Cheers.
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@BinoWorld-UK
I’m sorry, I don’t have a reliable answer to that question. When I used S7 last winter, I found sleep tracking very precise and hence would guess so, but it’s just a guess. I remember I’ve tried sleep tracking with my S9B for some time with 24/7 HR toggled off and it was basically useless compared to 24/7 HR switched on. -
@BinoWorld-UK
The S7 first beat sleep tracking is approx 2 years old now, and is the very original version, so am not quite sure what is used and how.
Can advise that the latest first beat sleep tracking (per Garmin watches) uses HRV to determine Body Battery (Resources for Suunto); but your sleep score is based off Duration, HRV, Restlessness/awake, HR (mainly around Deep stage - seems less impact on Light and REM which is probably just as well as it struggles to differentiate between the two which isn’t surprising).
