S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts
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@Optics-field-Test @Brad_Olwin I’m sure S7 is a great and accurate device, I wouldn’t buy it otherwise
Feels like I’m doing something wrong or device I’ve got is not functioning properly.
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@igchy I would suggest you give it a factory reset and before starting your run wait for the white arrow to go solid. I tend to activate my running mode about ten minutes before I start running that way I am guaranteed best signa lock and heart is nicely up. I do 10 minutes power walk before my run and that get my blood flowing to my arms so the HR is capturing clean data.
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@optics-field-test thank you for the advice! will try that today.
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After I reset a watch and set it up again, I noticed that even though my location correctly displayed on the map and arrow is solid white on the map, it’s still blinking in workout.
Reset watch few more times, issues is still there.
Getting a replacement, hope it’s gonna work as expected.Thank you for help, guys!
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@brad_olwin The screenshots above show 11868 steps in 11.65 miles. That seems improbable.
If that was 11.65 km that number of steps would make sense, but 11.65 miles - no. -
@sky-runner said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
@brad_olwin The screenshots above show 11868 steps in 11.65 miles. That seems improbable.
If that was 11.65 km that number of steps would make sense, but 11.65 miles - no.Those step figures don’t seem too bad to me.
Steps taken whilst running depend on two main things:
- Height of the runner
- Pace they are running
We don’t know the height of the poster, but we can see their pace of 6’00/mile (mighty fast! well done!)
An average person of average height (5’6") running an average pace (9’00/mile) will do 1480 steps per mile.
If someone is taller, they will do fewer steps. Shorter, then more steps.
If they run faster, they will do fewer steps. Slower, then more steps.We can see the poster has done an average of 1,018,7 steps per mile (11868 steps divided by 11.65 miles).
As they were going at quite a pace, that would explain the fewer steps per mile than the average. If the poster is taller than 5’6" that would also explain it.
Obviously none of this is scientific, but it’s a good enough average.
We can’t assume anyone’s steps per mile or km are high or low or right or wrong without knowing all of the relevant data.
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@olymay you forgot about cadence - that can change your stride length and increase/decrease the number of steps your take.
Recently I was doing a lot of cadence work trying to get up to 180spm and noticed my step count varied a lot from what used to be my norm 140-155spm to when I was hitting 168-175spm (still working on the 180spm). -
@jamie-bg said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
@olymay you forgot about cadence - that can change your stride length and increase/decrease the number of steps your take.
I thought cadence was a result of stride length and pace?
My understanding was the three were essentially a triangle. If you want to change one piece then you can change either of the other two?
(similar to ohms law in electrics, or the exposure triangle in photography, etc?)But yes, I probably should have mentioned it
(180 spm!?!?! wow that’s fast! great effort!)
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(180 spm!?!?! wow that’s fast! great effort!) - not there yet, still working on that - said I am normally around 168-175spm.
I think its worth the effort as supposedly it reduces the strain on the body especially the knees and my knees are super dodgy (along with my back) from too many years of training and competitive sailing in dinghies.
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@jamie-bg said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
(180 spm!?!?! wow that’s fast! great effort!) - not there yet, still working on that - said I am normally around 168-175spm.
I think its worth the effort as supposedly it reduces the strain on the body especially the knees and my knees are super dodgy (along with my back) from too many years of training and competitive sailing in dinghies.
175 is pretty damn close to 180 and is close enough for me to say well done
So are you simply running faster? Or taking small and fast steps to end up a similar pace to your regular running?
(sorry if this is going off topic)
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Got a replacement S7, GPS gets a fix in 10-15 seconds even inside.
@sky-runner you’re absolutely right, 11.65 miles and 11868 steps don’t make a lot of sense for me too:
11.65 * 5280 / 11868 = about 5.2 feet per step.
I’m 5’7" and jumping 5 feet on each step for an hour+ would be… hm… fun lol
An average cadence on that run is 86. I want to see somebody who can run like that
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@igchy hopefully the hardware was the issue.
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Yep, a replacement watch makes a lot more sense (today wasn’t my best performance btw :))
Also, “Wear GPS Fix” application helped me with troubleshooting GPS issue:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freepoc.weargpsfix
Thanks everybody!
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@olymay said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
(sorry if this is going off topic)
OT sometimes is manna
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@olymay running about the same pace, though I do use the cadence to slightly increase/decrease pace by varying it slightly, but is more about improving my running style to put less strain on my body by taking the smaller strides.
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@jamie-bg said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
@olymay running about the same pace, though I do use the cadence to slightly increase/decrease pace by varying it slightly, but is more about improving my running style to put less strain on my body by taking the smaller strides.
Sounds good! I might look into doing something similar, as my old and worn legs struggle with distance.
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@olymay exactly why i am doing it, otherwise my knees wouldn’t allow me to even run once a month. At least this way I can run 1-2 a week, it doesn’t impact my cycling, walking, hiking, SUPing and swimming (all so much more knee friendly)
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@jamie-bg said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
@olymay exactly why i am doing it, otherwise my knees wouldn’t allow me to even run once a month. At least this way I can run 1-2 a week, it doesn’t impact my cycling, walking, hiking, SUPing and swimming (all so much more knee friendly)
I tend to struggle with my achilles and calves (me knees to complain, but usually only after 20km or so), I wonder if this will help with that. Got to be worth a try
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@olymay said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
I tend to struggle with my achilles and calves (me knees to complain, but usually only after 20km or so), I wonder if this will help with that. Got to be worth a try
Before trying to change your running form, ask help from an expert, or at least do your research online
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@isazi said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
@olymay said in S7 - Distance/speed is off on the Running workouts:
I tend to struggle with my achilles and calves (me knees to complain, but usually only after 20km or so), I wonder if this will help with that. Got to be worth a try
Before trying to change your running form, ask help from an expert, or at least do your research online
Don’t worry, I will do plenty of research (I’m well known amongst my friends for doing loads of research before buying things or trying new things
)I don’t know any experts to ask, so I do take inspiration from places such as this, where people tend to be way more experienced than I am. I will still look into anything that is said however
