Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?
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@olymay https://the5krunner.com/2021/06/17/qualcomm-confirms-widespread-platform-support-for-wear-os-3/
qualcomm “yes, 3100 can support wear os 3”. So if Suunto wants, S7 can support it. AFAIK
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@jorgefd78 said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:
@olymay https://the5krunner.com/2021/06/17/qualcomm-confirms-widespread-platform-support-for-wear-os-3/
qualcomm “yes, 3100 can support wear os 3”. So if Suunto wants, S7 can support it. AFAIK
This is true.
However…
There is a world of difference between ‘can support’ and ‘can run well’.
There are many WearOS devices out there right now running the 3100 chip (or older) with just 512MB of RAM and on WearOS HMR2 yet the run like like an arthritic sloth wading through treacle.
The exact quote from Qualcomm is:
“We are working with Google on bringing Wear OS 3.0 to Snapdragon Wear 4100+ and 4100 platforms. Snapdragon Wear 3100, 4100+, and 4100 are capable of supporting Wear OS 3.0, but we are not discussing any specifics at this time.”
This implies to me that whilst the 3100 CAN support WearOS 3, Qualcomm don’t seem to be interested in making it happen.
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@olymay The “3100 can support 3.x” is what I’m focusing at as well. I’d hate to get a new update, just to make the watch run worse. I’m very happy, as started before, as it is now. Rather they just get 2.x as stable as possible. But if 3.x could run as well and bring new features, I of course wouldn’t complain.
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@harboe said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:
@olymay The “3100 can support 3.x” is what I’m focusing at as well. I’d hate to get a new update, just to make the watch run worse. I’m very happy, as started before, as it is now. Rather they just get 2.x as stable as possible. But if 3.x could run as well and bring new features, I of course wouldn’t complain.
Yeah, I agree 100%. Suunto have done an amazing job with the S7 to get running really well with bags of features and a stellar battery life. If the upgrade to v3.x were to affect that then I would rather stay at v2.x
That being said, I am squirrelling some cash away just in case a newer S7 does get released later this year or early next year. There is nothing wrong with my current model, but I’m a gadget geek who likes shiny things!
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@olymay said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:
That being said, I am squirrelling some cash away just in case a newer S7 does get released later this year or early next year. There is nothing wrong with my current model, but I’m a gadget geek who likes shiny things!
I’ll probably hang on to mine untill the battery no longer holds a full day. Hoping that means around four years from day of purchase.
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@aleksander-h said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:
@olymay said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:
That being said, I am squirrelling some cash away just in case a newer S7 does get released later this year or early next year. There is nothing wrong with my current model, but I’m a gadget geek who likes shiny things!
I’ll probably hang on to mine untill the battery no longer holds a full day. Hoping that means around four years from day of purchase.
As long as the battery holds up I’ve no doubt the S7 will easily last that long (and knowing Suunto it will still be getting software updates too!).
My problem is I have GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) and am always upgrading my gear. I do sell my old stuff on and avoid throwing things away though, to at least try and minimise my environmental impact.
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Or is it the opposite !? The 4100 does not have a coprocessor and currently incompatible with wear os 3. 0 …
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@deltof said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:
Or is it the opposite !? The 4100 does not have a coprocessor and currently incompatible with wear os 3. 0 …
Both Qualcomm and Google have confirmed the 4100 (and the 4100+ and 3100) is compatible with WerOS 3.0
But who knows…?
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In short, not all low-end smartWatchers manufacturers invest in software.
Suunto releases a product and makes it evolve with updates.
The Google suunto link is strong.
I Suunto was the first with hmr2, there will be wear os 3 on the suunto 7 peak at minimum -
@olymay you obviously haven’t seen the Google announcement which basically told Qualcomm to shut up and they couldn’t know whether it would support or not…
Personally I think Qualcomm is correct (they are possibly going on S7 being already able to do a lot of what has been discussed and that the API’s are still Wear OS API). I think Google’s announcement was more about trying to ensure that the Samsung launch is successful. How many people are going to go straight out in launch month to buy a new wear os Samsung for +$300 (note google and samsung have already said wear 3.0 will be premium only hardware), if they know there is potential possibilty for their current watch to be upgraded, especially as a lot have only had their watch approx 1 year.
Should Suunto launch a new model - much more difficult answer. I think that if they can they should update the S7 (depending on effort - it already does what Wear 3.0 will do as long as you use the suunto app) - I think of the benefit re customer loyalty and showing the rest Suunto cares about their customers. However I also agree that a S7 Peak/S8 (personally I think Suunto should create a new line i.e. W7 - to designate is a Smartwatch first, fitness second), and should be with the Samsung chip as you just know its going to improve battery life and be better integrated than the 4100.
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@jamie-bg i did see that post from Google (although after my other posts on here).
I’m inclined to believe a bit of both of them, but also think that they are both covering their own backsides.
Yes, it is likely that the 3100, 4100, and 4100+ can run WearOS 3. But will they run it well?
If a watch runs it badly then it will damage the reputation of the OS and the hardware. In fact, WearOS 3 could be dead on arrival if too many devices run it badly.
Obviously Google wants as many devices as possible to run it, but they want, no, they NEED it to run perfectly. This is likely their last chance to take on the Apple Watch and if all of the initial reviews are that it runs like a dog then it’s game over.
Consumers won’t take into consideration that the hardware is old, they will see the headlines that WearOS 3 is slow and that will be it.
Qualcomm however, don’t care two hoots about WearOS (i think that have become obvious over the years). All they care about it selling chips, saving reputation, and saying they are market leaders. So if their older chips are no longer supported then it hurts them as a company.
Qualcomm would put WearOS 3 on every chip they ever made if they thought it would benefit them, but sod the customer, as long as it makes them money.Google want (and again, NEED) WearOS to run perfectly, so they should be pushing for it on only the absolute best hardware.
As good as the 3100 is and as good a job Suunto have done with it (which they really have!), it is old, slow and power hungry. There is no point having the amazing Suunto App if the OS underneath it is running slow due to the hardware.
IF (and it’s a big if) the 3100 can run WearOS 3 well then I would expect Suunto to support the S7 for quite a while yet.
However, if it runs with even the slightest lag then Suunto need to keep the S7 on WearOS 2 and get a new model out ASAP.As I mentioned before, the average consumer already considers the TWP3 better than the S7 purely based on it having the 4100 (despite there being no notable improvement in having that chip).
The S7 is already over 18 months old, so is long in the tooth in the tech world. I personally think a 2 year cycle for something like this is perfect, as it allows each iteration to have noticeable improvements and ensures support from manufacturer.
However if Suunto are too late to the WearOS 3 party then they could lose out on sales.A newer S7 (whatever it may be called) with Samsung silicone, better battery life, reduced bezel, lighter, slimmer, etc with still the Suunto smarts inside (and with continued updates) could be the WearOS device to beat and with proper advertising (and a sensible price unlike the S7 at launch!) could take a serious chunk of the market.
Just my thoughts for this wet and soggy British morning
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