Suunto 7 has competition
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Looks like there may finally be some competition to the Suunto 7 (and competition can only benefit the consumer).
Thoughts?
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@olymay Yes competition is always good from consumer’s perspective. My initial thought when I opened that link was that my god I have a beautiful watch, the S7 I mean
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@jantikainen haha, I’ve always like the look of those beefy Casio watches, smart or not, but they sure do look like they are going to kill you in your sleep don’t they?
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For all my activities I use the Casio GBD-H1000, a perfect watch for sports. The best display out there and precise as my Spartan Ultra. Solar powered and a solid heart rate measuring.
I have no need for another WearOS watch because of the limited battery capacity. But the dual display of the Casio is a unique feature, not limited as on the Mobvoi Ticwatch.
Casio has shown the power of the dual screen with the WSD-F21HR running WearOS.
The watch will have great potential if it is not a joke to fool people on the 1. of April.
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@chrish G-Shock are definitely an acquired taste. In the right setting I think they can look great, however I certainly wouldn’t want to wear one with a suit. But I think I could get away with the S7 and a suit (if it would fit under the sleeve that is!).
I’m glad G-Shock are joining the WearOS family as it means the OS certainly isn’t dead. And with rumours that Samsung is making the switch too then it should have a bright future.
Hopefully now there is another strong fitness WearOS device on the market, it might give Suunto the kick up the backside to add external sensor support and auto pause
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@olymay yea, i wasn’t meaning to sound like i was knocking the G-Shocks. I love the look but have never had one. They are just TOUGH looking. But they are definitely super cool. The Casio G-Shock and Suunto were really the pioneers of this whole industry with the early ABC watches.
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@chrish ha ha, i know you weren’t knocking them, sorry.
I have a love hate feeling towards G-Shock. They are great watches, although personally I am not a fan of the style (but that’s just me).
I agree with you that they do look super tough (and I love your comment about them looking like they will kill you in your sleep
)I’m looking forward to seeing what this new one can do and how companies like Suunto will react.
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I prefer the look of the Suunto 7. I also noticed that the Casio needs 3 hours to get a full charge but still only promises 1.5 day usage. It’s also very heavy, which can negatively affect oHR readings, and the display is smaller than the Suunto’s. I wonder how using maps will be on a smaller display? I also didn’t see anything about sleep tracking, which finally is coming to the Suunto 7. So I would say that the Suunto 7 has an advantage. But I do expect the quality to be top notch and better than the Suunto 7.
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@aeroild I also prefer the look of the Suunto 7.
I hadn’t noticed the 3 hour charging time, that’s insane!! Teh S7 charges significantly faster.
Battery life is dependent on usage, so i take manufacturer claims with a grain of salt (for example I get three days from my S7 when not running, which is more than Suunto claim).The weight is also significant and would be a concern (although you would certainly notice when you forget to wear it
)Screen size may be less of an issue. I am used to the lage screen of the S7 (and love it) but if someone is coming straight to the G-Shock then it might not be ab issue.
The G-Shock is likely to win durability tests against any other smartwatch though.
And we haven’t discussed the price either, which is pretty high.
I agree that the S7 has the advantage, but it is nice that there are finally some WearOS fitness watches that can start to push it
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@olymay - I just let the shirt sleeve cuff rest at the back of the watch, wear it slightly looser, and just be careful when putting on that sleeve of my suite (due to wearing it looser).
Have B&B, so puttinga nice dress watch face on, and it looks like a very sleek and understated dress watch.Couple of people who have noticed its a smartwatch have commented very favourably on it.
Been a while though as that was when I first got it, been working from home for months now.
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@olymay don’t think it will - this more looks like competition to ticwatch etc, when taking a look at some of the their tracking screens. Of course will be interesting to see what fitness and if any training metrics are included (as this is the key difference with S7 compared to anything - including 3rd party - available options in wear os). I reckon they would have been better off adding that fuctionality from their previous wear os watches with the hunting, fishing etc options they previously included.That would have given them an advantage over the rest. I see no competative advantage with the current available info.
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@jamie-bg said in Suunto 7 has competition:
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Take both watches, go outdoor into the sun and you will see the advantage of the Casio. I had the WSD-F21HR with the dual layer display. Beneath the S7 and the SSU mounted on the handle bar. In the sun was the Casio the only watch which was readable in all conditions. And the actual GBD-H1000 is playing in another league in the meantime. The best display of all available outdoor watches.
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@pilleus was that just the lcd screen and or was that also the colour screen.
also no guarantee that its still the same screen - will have to wait and see. -
@jamie-bg said in Suunto 7 has competition:
@pilleus was that just the lcd screen and or was that also the colour screen.
also no guarantee that its still the same screen - will have to wait and see.The OLED is as bad as on all WearOS watches. It is no option in the sun.
The dual layer display (LCD) or MIP on the GBD-H1000 are excellent. The display is configurable. This is the difference to the Mobvoi watches, where the second screen is hard coded.
No doubt, that Casio is a again a game changer concerning the display in outdoor usage.
I will send a photo as soon as the watch is delivered.
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@jamie-bg I tend to wear double cuff shirts, so am concerned the S7 won’t fit underneath. However, I’ve been working from home for over a year now and don’t see me going back any time soon.
I have a feeling the g-Shock will sit between the S7 and the TicWatch.
The more I look at it the less I think it pose any threat to the S7 at all. -
@pilleus I’m really surprised at that. I ran in some REALLY strong sunshine last summer and was really impressed at how easy the S7 was to read at all times (and even with polarised sunglasses on).
I went for a rehab walk last week again in sunshine and it was super readable, wheras my girlfriend’s Garmin Venu wasn’t.
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The problem with Casio is their software support is horrible. Coming from trying the WSD-F20, WSD-F21 and even the GBD-H1000 I can speak from experience. We all know the 3100 is a bad dated chip but Suunto’s development team turned a turd into an apple through development and hard work. Casio won’t do that and they will charge you double for the pleasure of owning an oversized plastic case with a cool design. This watch will absolutely fail and it will be because of the lack of Casio’s effort because they still have no clue on modern tech and think it’s still the year 2000.
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@pilleus Try to check a notifications on the Casio GBD-H1000. It takes about 7 clicks. It’s also the only watch I have ever seen where the core Android notifications are broken and gives you a notification every time you take a picture with your camera or wifi is available. It’s a disaster but you won’t get that admission from the hardcore fans. I’m not hating on Casio. I loved the watch but add any modern tech in it outside the core Casio tracking and it was a disaster. For a non touchscreen watch Garmin kills them from a hybrid smart watch standpoint.
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No problem at all. Different watches, different features, different users, different disadvantages.
I use different watches in different situations. And I am not a fan of a special brand.
And no one will be forced to buy a Casio. A real sportsman never will use another watch than a Suunto. That’s what I have learned in the past concerning all topics about competitor watches.
For me a watch is just a watch. I use it, I love it or not, I sell it and buy another.
I will buy the new Casio, but I think there will be no advantage vs the actual GBD-H1000, which fits all my needs while cycling and kayaking and hiking.
And often I use my SSU and sometimes my S7.
Enjoy your watch(es)!
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@olymay must agree - haven’t found any issues, especially when wearing my polarized sunglasses (can’t say the same with my phone - go landscape and everthing is blocked out, only a bit better in portrait). Whereas as watch is very visible in tracking mode. Must admit that ambient screen can be a bit dodgy sometimes in very very strong sunlight, but a quick touch and have awake screen which is super visible (but then have ambient set way down).
