Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto

[André Faria]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Azl6mSwLw

An interview with Suunto about the digital transition. In French.
Very interesting.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@André-Faria Romain is a great guy

[André Faria]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

@André-Faria Romain is a great guy

Isn’t that the first exigence on suunto job interview ?
The interview was clear , explaining more why things are happening the way they are.
Something like this would have helped by the beginning of digital transition

[Fenr1r]

@André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

The interview was clear

Malheureusement, the auto-translations (audio and transcript) aren’t. Lots of stuff about Moscow.

If you can spare the time/effort, would you help me (precis-wise) with the following, please …

Is there anything newly definitive on the future capabilities of Son-of-Movescount?
Are Ambits obsolete? (I imagine not but what are they now, officially?)
How happy is the intergenerational cohabitation supposed to be?
What’s the app distinction between “outdoor” and “training”?
Suunto 11 - speculation?

If there’s nothing new or you’ve got anything better to do, don’t waste your time, though.

[André Faria]

@Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

@André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

The interview was clear

Malheureusement, the auto-translations (audio and transcript) aren’t. Lots of stuff about Moscow.

If you can spare the time/effort, would you help me (precis-wise) with the following, please …

Is there anything newly definitive on the future capabilities of Son-of-Movescount?
Are Ambits obsolete? (I imagine not but what are they now, officially?)
How happy is the intergenerational cohabitation supposed to be?
What’s the app distinction between “outdoor” and “training”?
Suunto 11 - speculation?

If there’s nothing new or you’ve got anything better to do, don’t waste your time, though.

My french is still not 100%…But I will try to help you with what I understood and my interpretation.
Also, I think maybe your and my interpretation may vary from Romain/Suunto:

Is there anything newly definitive on the future capabilities of Son-of-Movescount?
No, not defined. It is stated and being a “tool” to allow the ambits to continue working.

Are Ambits obsolete? (I imagine not but what are they now, officially?)
According to suunto no, with the possibility of the syncing to SA, work with partners will make the ambits “active” and not absolute at all.

How happy is the intergenerational cohabitation supposed to be?
I think Suunto thinks that the fact that ambits are able to continue working, profit from Suunto App and their partnerships is a happy intergenerational cohabitation

Suunto 11 - speculation?
No speculation

Will elaborate later

[Fenr1r]

@André-Faria Thanks for the work: your understanding is appreciated and your interpretation is enjoyed.

[André Faria]

@Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

@André-Faria Thanks for the work: your understanding is appreciated and your interpretation is enjoyed.

Sorry, I was out for a walk.
I think Romain did his best to explain the intentions of Suunto, in the view of someone inside Suunto, and of course making it seem desirable/ok.
I can’t blame him or Suunto, in fact, considering how things have been shared on Suunto website, I think he did much better.
If that is enough for Ambit 3 users or some users, maybe not. But at least we understand how they thinking, what are their aims.
For ambit 1/2 users in their view they are supported, and have the possibility of using the newer app and partnerships (so not obsolete, which I kinda agree).
For ambit 3 users, in their view, it is supported within the app (so not obsolete. Here I hope to get more news regarding functions that we had and that relay on Movescount app, or even planner in movescount. But let’s wait)
Regarding proper new, that I find interesting:
Investing in the “platform” instead of new watch every 6 months
Focus on doing good instead of doing everything
Possibility of “two way sync” between TP and SA in 2021: that for me, if well implemented a game changer.
Let’s see

[Bulkan]

@André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

Focus on doing good instead of doing everything
Possibility of “two way sync” between TP and SA in 2021: that for me, if well implemented a game changer.
Let’s see

Did he say that? Wow, that would change my life, I use TP and WKO as my main tool to planing and analyzing. The other day when I saw in the survey CTL-ATL was a big surprise. Made it happen Suunto!

[Fenr1r]

@André-Faria Exercise and fresh air are allowed. Get any impression that the S7 smartwatch hybrid(s) are more the focus for the future than the other Sx?

[Prenj]

Before implementing two way syncing between Suunto app and third party services, I’d expect two way sync between watches they are selling and their own Suunto app.

[André Faria]

@Bulkan said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

@André-Faria said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

Focus on doing good instead of doing everything
Possibility of “two way sync” between TP and SA in 2021: that for me, if well implemented a game changer.
Let’s see

Did he say that? Wow, that would change my life, I use TP and WKO as my main tool to planing and analyzing. The other day when I saw in the survey CTL-ATL was a big surprise. Made it happen Suunto!

Min 38:04 starts the discussion about having Suunto app also importing stuff from training peaks and the integration. That today is only available in export mode.
Discussion finish at min 40 something.
A native French speaker may confirm
Edit: confirmed

[Brad_Olwin]

@Fenr1r I doubt that Suunto would lose focus on outdoor/ultra watches, it is their heritage. Whether an S7 next generation could combine those, I don’t know. Plus, Suunto has invested a lot in mapping so I see continued emphasis in outdoor oriented watches. The S7 has a number of issues that make it a poor choice for an all-around outdoor watch IMHO.

[André Faria]

@Fenr1r said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

@André-Faria Exercise and fresh air are allowed. Get any impression that the S7 smartwatch hybrid(s) are more the focus for the future than the other Sx?

I think that was not mentioned by Romain at all.
He just explained the “user targets” for each series.
And Jerome talked about his experience with S7, which even on outdoors, from what I understood, was very good (battery life apart).

[sartoric]

“Aujourd’hui, tout faire, c’est mal faire”

AMEN

[sartoric]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
Sure he is … You got his endorsement

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@sartoric where ? lol

[chrish]

@Brad_Olwin I don’t think the S7 will ever be a viable outdoor oriented watch, WearOS will not, in the near future, likely have the necessary battery life to pull that off. It’s a smart watch OS bent into the shape of a Suunto-ish OS.

Alphabet could surprise us and produce a version of WearOS that doesn’t eat battery…but unlikely. Don’t think I’ve seen any smart watch manufacturer claim anything of the sort is on their ‘roadmap’ to date.

Gonna be hard pressed to beat the S9, or need to, if they can just get the few missing features into the mobile app and onto the watch itself. My toe and ankle have healed and I’m eagerly awaiting some S9 features, a purchase, and a return to the backcountry in the spring!!! Or, if I’m lucky, marginal functionality retained and I’ll just use my A3P.

[Brad_Olwin]

@chrish As of now the S7 will go 15-20h with FusedTrack. That plus maps makes it a pretty good outdoor watch. But it does not have a storm alarm, nor the features that the S9 has for outdoor activities (no altitude profile with a route loaded, for example). But I think for many it works.

[André Faria]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

@sartoric where ? lol

On the video, about qs

[Luís Pinto]

@chrish We will see this solution greater each step. With new chipsets, (4100) “… reduce power consumption >25% and bring extended battery life to the platform.”, imagine with 5nm cpu process (qualcomm 4100 is 12nm…), and new graphene batteries.

I think would be great for S7 users to use also S+ add-ons. Suunto should use work already done for S5 and S9 and migrate to android OS. There are ressources very useful in S7 that wearOS brings.

Some people complain about the screen at the sun. Here with amoled technology there is not much to do.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Luís-Pinto I do not want everything to go Android, as an iPhone user, I find Google Assistant on the watch works perhaps 1/4 of the time. 3/4 of the time the watch can’t figure it out and states Google not available (it is) or simply does not respond. This is for setting a simple timer. Compared to Apple Watch OS it is a joke. I would rather not have all watches hobbled to Wear OS and I doubt they will be.

[Luís Pinto]

@Brad_Olwin Imagine people that want buy a AW… But, but, oh they need to have a iPhone. Google have to make much more to bring wearOS to other position.

I’m not a android fan, but on these days user experience is more and more app experience than OS.

Is more easy programming in proprietary OS or Android?

In initial S7 days i was not a big fan of concept. But i saw potential.

[chrish]

@Brad_Olwin Not my use case, but point taken. I want a watch that will last for a week or two, turn it on for a couple hours of GPS navigation as needed. S7 and WearOS is not going to provide that. The OS is going to eat that in a few days. How long will an S7 run just laying on a desk…if it’s a month, then OK.

[chrish]

@Luís-Pinto said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

screen

Yup. Graphene is the future. As soon as my ceramic coating wears off my car, gonna smear it w/ graphene

[Fenr1r]

@chrish said in Digital Transition interview with Romain from Suunto:

Yup. Graphene is the future. As soon as my ceramic coating wears off my care, gonna smear it w/ graphene

You could also have some on a bagel, if you’re not watching your carb.