Aereo mode on S7
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I use it in activities for ski mountaineering and trail running, if the hand moves, certainly not as in cycling which is stationary on the handlebar. Then I don’t often watch the watch but we are still talking about a watch designed for sports, or am I wrong?
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@luca760101 there’s nothing optimistic about facts. Everyone uses the watch to match his own requirements. If yours are not met with the Suunto 7, buy another watch
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@luca760101
Of course it is a smartwatch, with all the merits and defects of the case, and wearing it in airplane mode does not make much sense, but if you need greater autonomy, you can also go down to these compromises.Without any controversy, I don’t think you do 6-8-10 hour activities every day (if yes, you actually bought the wrong watch), and I don’t think you are very interested in notifications while doing that type of activity.
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@jw-cou said in Aereo mode on S7:
there’s nothing optimistic about facts. Everyone uses the watch to match his own requirements. If yours are not met with the Suunto 7, buy another watch
I do not accept this type of answer at all, I have always been a happy owner of Suunto, I have purchased at least 6 of the various series, I do not know how many you have bought that you pronounce in this way. If I bought the 7 selling from Spartan, it means that I believed in Suunto and in what it stated in the watch’s specifications. Since, as well as you who are so sure of your purchase, I took it in pre-order, or when nobody owned one to possibly read the various user feedbacks. Therefore I invested my 479 euros placing full trust in the Finnish brand and I don’t understand how I should settle for performances not in line with what was declared. In addition, the Suunto home one month after my purchase no longer gives me the opportunity to return the watch (the withdrawal time is a maximum of 15 days). So, not finding the money on the street, why should I buy another watch? I expect you to answer me … in a sensible way, not with sentences made. -
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@Saketo-Nemo
thank you for the answer. Of course, not every day I have these training rhythms but I go out at least 2-3 times a week from 3 to 5 hours (and the autonomy I tested is just over 4 hours in smartwatch mode with a fully charged watch). I bought a smartwatch just because, doing mountain sports, I don’t run with the phone in my hand, but I leave it in my backpack and know if I have any emergency calls while I’m out, or important messages from people who need to contact me, it’s for me it’s really important that my sports watch is a smartwatch. Suunto’s Spartan did all this, just as it does on 9 by accessing notifications with a direct bluetooth connection to the phone. Having bought Suunto 7 in pre-order, as I think all of you, I had no idea that Wear OS was so cinditional in the autonomy of the watch. In fact, notifications pass only through Wear OS and not directly via bluetooth and this is perhaps the real problem of this watch for its reduced autonomy. -
@luca760101 sorry I don’t think it’s worth continuing my conversation with you, it seems to me we’re a bit in a loop here and I will not be able to bring anything I or someone else have not already said in this forum. I wish you find your “watch happiness”
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@giulio said in Aereo mode on S7:
@Brad_Olwin
Uneven hand movement…?
Do you meant to reactivate screen too often…right?Yes, a lot of hand movement, which turns the screen on and that will lead to faster battery depletion.
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I wish you the same. But if in a forum where experiences are exchanged to improve the experience on a product, the intervention ends with “you could buy another watch”, then yes, it is not worth it. Good day to you
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@luca760101 I will try to help as much as I can, but as I have stated before your battery life is not consistent with mine or with what I have seen from other testers. Have you attempted to contact support? This thread is getting a bit long and I do not know if you have tried a complete reset for the watch as well. I think a 5h training and having the watch last all day is a completely realistic expectation. Let us know, maybe provide a list of what you have tried and any apps installed that did not come with the watch, settings for the watchface too.
Like you, my weekends have long exercises, often over 5h and I have pushed my S7 a lot, most of the time it runs out of battery. I have found SkiMo to be worse than running for battery life and do not have a good answer why. -
@Brad_Olwin said in Aereo mode on S7:
I will try to help as much as I can, but as I have stated before your battery life is not consistent with mine or with what I have seen from other testers. Have you attempted to contact support? This thread is getting a bit long and I do not know if you have tried a complete reset for the watch as well. I think a 5h training and having the watch last all day is a completely realistic expectation. Let us know, maybe provide a list of what you have tried and any apps installed that did not come with the watch, settings for the watchface too.
Like you, my weekends have long exercises, often over 5h and I have pushed my S7 a lot, most of the time it runs out of battery. I have found SkiMo to be worse than running for battery life and do not have a good answer why.Thanks, for sure the skimo stresses the battery more both for the lower temperatures and, as you say, for the movement of the wrist that perhaps excites the movement sensor. I contacted the system and I also sent the watch back to Finland, but I was reactivated without any intervention declaring it without problems. If this post is getting too long, if you have a way to close it (I don’t know if you are a moderator) go ahead, there is no problem. I don’t want to be a problem user, I’ve always owned Suunto, I just want to be satisfied with my purchase.
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@luca760101 no need to close a post if it’s active.
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@luca760101 You are not a problem user, if you still have your S7 and want to try to improve battery we can work on that here or start another thread. If the hardware is fine then some software or usage is causing you to have less battery then I would expect. I have had my S7 since early fall and prior to release there was much improvement in the battery life. With SkiMo I wear my S7 inside clothes on my arm so it should be warm and use my S9 for Navigation, etc. So the cold does not explain why my battery is not as good for SkiMo. I have done a lot of SkiMo with the S7.
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@Brad_Olwin
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulostoday I chatted a little in private with @luca760101 . there is probably a problem, also found by me, in sports with the use of ski poles.
in running and in most sports, the screen is nornally in standby and is reactivated with the rotation of the wrist, in skimo and in the run with ski poles, probably the watch suffers from false positives and the screen tends to activate with the natural rotations of the wrist of this sport.
can it make sense? I also had the worst performances in these conditions (6h).
in the race I register about 10-11% per hour and in the bike about 9-10%, so mine should not be a very energy-intensive configuration.
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@Saketo-Nemo maybe the same reason why skiing is also very battery hungry on the 7?
Not direct experience, I read it here.
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@Saketo-Nemo said in Aereo mode on S7:
@Brad_Olwin
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulostoday I chatted a little in private with @luca760101 . there is probably a problem, also found by me, in sports with the use of ski poles.
in running and in most sports, the screen is nornally in standby and is reactivated with the rotation of the wrist, in skimo and in the run with ski poles, probably the watch suffers from false positives and the screen tends to activate with the natural rotations of the wrist of this sport.
can it make sense? I also had the worst performances in these conditions (6h).
in the race I register about 10-11% per hour and in the bike about 9-10%, so mine should not be a very energy-intensive configuration.
That would be consistent with my impression, I have not tried the watch running with poles but SkiMo for me is definitely worse battery consumption-wise. I still think @luca760101 is getting much worse battery than he should. If he is using poles for all running that could explain it. For this issue I would suggest turning off all gestures while exercising but not Airplane mode and see if that helps.
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@Brad_Olwin said in Aereo mode on S7:
That would be consistent with my impression, I have not tried the watch running with poles but SkiMo for me is definitely worse battery consumption-wise. I still think @luca760101 is getting much worse battery than he should. If he is using poles for all running that could explain it. For this issue I would suggest turning off all gestures while exercising but not Airplane mode and see if that helps
The gestures on my S7 are already disabled including wrist rotation. But when you activate the Suunto app, the rotation gesture to check the activity in progress on the watch is activated by default. Also because it would be very inconvenient to have to touch the watch with the other hand (button or touch) to check the status of the activity.
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@isazi
I have no experience with skiing intended as downhill skiing, I can’t tell you.Two other things:
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in “ski pole” sports, or in any case if you want to maximize autonomy, instead of leaving the Suunto app screen on the energy saving one, which in any case shows lines and symbols and is partially illuminated, it is obviously it is possible to press back to go back to watch mode and to send the screen in complete stand by, i.e. completely black. Obviously, then, to see the data, you will need to press the button corresponding to the Suunto app, the one at the top right.
It is a forcing, but in emergencies, it can be done. -
I believe that Suunto is already working on this front, but I think the energy saving screen can be reviewed with a view to energy saving.
@Brad_Olwin
since you are a tester in the field, do you have any anticipation to give us, without breaking your NDA? -
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@Saketo-Nemo said in Aereo mode on S7:
@Brad_Olwin
since you are a tester in the field, do you have any anticipation to give us, without breaking your NDA?I leave that to @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos as I enjoy being a tester and do not want to be “released”:). I can tell you that Suunto is working on improving the S7 experience but that is about all I am willing to say.