May Transition Update

  • Hi! i just ordered an ambit3 (my first suunto). may i ask a question here?
    can i start with movescount and the movescount app as long as it will be supported and wait with the switch to the new one as long as possible?
    and, will i be able to put routes on the ambit3 or change sport settings with the new one?
    thanks for your info!
    kind regards, Mario

  • Community Manager

    @mario_b that is what I would do!

  • Bronze Member

    @mario_b I have the Ambit3, and the New Suunto app do not support rute planning or change the clock’s layout. I have requested the possibility of this on the forum.

  • Hi @KnutB ! yes i know, that this is not possible yet. i will stick as long as it will be possible with the whole movescount system. and as far as i know, here is everything possible. i can use this ecosystem at least until the end of 2019.
    thanks for requesting this functions. i hope, it will be possible sooner or later to put create and sync routes to this watch with the new app. if i can only change the sport-modes on a computer. i think that would not be a big deal to me.

  • Bronze Member

    @mario_b Unfortunately, unless I’m misunderstanding what Suunto have said, the only functionality that we are confirmed to keep next year (as Ambit3) owners is :

    • synchronization of training data and ability to view and analyze workouts
    • enriching your trainings in Suunto app with images, videos and descriptions
    • social sharing of trainings
    • notifications from your mobile phone on your watch
    • ability to sync to sports services and other partners integrated to Suunto app
    • watch GPS optimization

    So unless anything changes then we will not be able to change sports modes’ fields, upload custom workouts or upload routes next year (unless you manage to hang on to the old Movescount App and a compatible phone/tablet - and even that I’m not 100% sure how much it relies on the availability of the old movescount website / apis).

    Suunto have said “We want to share that we will have a solution to connect to Suunto app in the future. While we are still working on many details and the timing, we wanted…” - so we might keep all the features of the Ambit3 (and older) but its not clear at all which features will be retained.

    My watch is now well out of return period, but if you have bought your watch from a retailer unless you are happy to set-up your sports modes and routes now and then hope Suunto provide a full solution then I would return it…

  • @amasidlover thanks very much for your infos. i was thinking alot on “should i buy it or not”. and now i ordered it. 🙂 as for me it sounds like the perfect sports watch. i am more like a child who is waiting for the christmas present now. 😀
    and as long as suunto is selling it on their homepage with all the specs (for example suunto apps compatible / wireless watch settings, navigation, create routes) there will be anything to do so in future. (otherwise they would have removed the infos in the shop).
    but the time will tell. 🙂 and i think that the developers in the background have priority and more to care about their newest product line and the transition. i know how such big background system changes will be for the admins.
    so as long as i haven’t the watch in my hand and then when i have it. as long as everything works in movescount i think i don’t worry to much about the future.

  • Bronze Member

    @mario_b I’ve had mine 4 years and done 4216 workouts (!) with it and the watch itself has been pretty much faultless - I’m really hoping Suunto maintain full support it. Hope you get as much use out of yours!

  • @amasidlover WOW thats awesome. that are more then 20 workouts a week. 👍
    mine will for sure have much more “sparetime” then yours. 😉 but i hope that it is as trusty as yours.

  • @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos sorry that i mess up this thread with off topic posts. ☺

  • Community Manager

    @mario_b no worries. Its common here. Sometimes I join the offtopic drivers as well 😛

    Btw Movescount (aka MC) is not going anywhere for more than a year from now 😉

    Enjoy your watch and use is as a tool to improve your self and enjoy your training.

  • @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thx! i am sure i will.

  • Bronze Member

    @mario_b Ambit is a lovely watch. Hoping for the full support of the Suunto app as it provides Spartan and newer models

  • Bronze Member

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Ambit is a lovely watch. Hoping for the full support of the Suunto app as it provides Spartan and newer models

  • @KnutB yes, i think so too. 🙂 especially for example with that gps antenna. for me it is an masterpiece of “form follows function” design. and i really like the minimalistic system on it. i had some of my friends ambit3’s a lot in my hand. i really like the simplicity of it.

  • @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos just an idea. for a sysadmin/company thinking standpoint. i could imagine that it could be possible to make the transition with all community activity syncing functions (lets say as it is right now in the may transition) to the SA and shrink down the MC service (web/app) to the functions needed on old devices. (configuration of sports modes, creating routes…) without all of that works in SA. so not much new has to be coded. the system changes could be nearly frozen (because there would not be something new to develop) the system would be resource and economical friendly to hold up a few years.
    like a Movescount “mini” 😄 for configuring the ambit family and route creation (as it is right now, with nothing else) and the rest could be deleted. And the SA as an active system for syncing activities, community and all functions for the newer watches that could be developed and updated without the care of brining in to much new code for the “old” watches.

  • Community Manager

    @mario_b 😮 To be honest this is one good solution. But in this thread I withdraw of my non-objective opinions as it most matters what others want to give as feedback. Like you 🙂

  • @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos i know what you mean ☺ that should not sound like a wish, more like a personal thinking of what could be .

  • so last “of topic” message from me. ☺
    i got mail and in there was something amber coloured in there:
    and are you serious? took it out for a short trail run 1:31 hours. used navigation, recorded heart rate and clicked a lot around and the battery was 6%??? (1sec. GPS ping, 1 sec recording) that would be around 25 hours total. and the GPS track and elevation = 👌 . i haven’t seen something precise yet on any watch. i think suunto got me 👍 ☺

  • @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos do you know if photos attached to moves in MC will be synchronised to SA?

  • @jorgefd78 mine were transferred. Yes on my end.

  • @malcyway Great!! Thank you

  • @jorgefd78 you will see them in Settings/User Profile

  • Ambit 3 Peak owner here. I’ve spent the first six months of 2019 trying the Suunto App, but I’ve finally had to revert to Movescount. Primarily, I needed to be able to program workouts into my watch, as well as sync routes, and create custom sport modes. I’d really like to not lose the ability to program POIs either, but that’s less important to me than the aforementioned.

    I’ve also found that the optimize GPS sync never completes. After some back and forth with customer support, I was told to wait and hopefully it would be resolved in a future version of the application. The problem there is that I travel a fair bit for work, and every time I’ve returned from a trip that took me across a continent or an ocean, my watch can’t acquire a GPS signal at home without my first using Moveslink to update sat positioning.

    For a tool that I spent nearly $600 dollars on, I’m not exactly pleased with the planned obsolescence. If I wanted that, I’d just buy an Apple product. As it stands, barring a roadmap for a more complete feature set with the Suunto App or a clear plan to continue supporting Moveslink/Movescount over the long term, I’m not going to buy another top-of-the-line Suunto product as I cannot count on continued support over the long term. I’ll spend a third of the price on a competitor’s option that at least lets me pull the GPX files off the watch myself and do with them as I please.

  • @mountainherder
    I’m also not full on SA yet. I only sync to SA for Strava uploads, that’s it. All the rest I use MC for.
    Give them some time… how they did it is not really nice for some users. But the watch is 100% working with MC for the time being.
    No one forces us to use SA yet. I think SA will be supporting Ambit before MC is shut down.

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