Is there anyy Official info how to move all data from Movescount to Suunto App?
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@pgrey What is so good about A3P with skiing? The S9 does an amazing job without an app. Counts downhill runs, downhill speed avg and max and all sorts of other data.
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@Brad_Olwin, for me, the A3P isn’t that good for skiing “out of the box”, but with a couple of apps it’s very good as long as I’m looking at the data on the watch. If the support for the apps on the A3P will be terminated with the shutdown of movescount, I will miss that and will be disappointed.
On movescount web I can manually enter the skiing-specific data fields from the app’s recorded data. So it’s kind of OK. It’s a pity that the movescount mobile app doesn’t sync that manually entered data from the web. I tried SA with the A3P, it extracts skiing metrics from the recorded track, and that’s comparable to what the apps on the watch measured.
For skiing SA seems to do better than the movescount app, but on the watch the apps are needed and I’m expecting some kind of continued support for that. Regarding the web interface, movescount is better for skiing than any other 3rd party I tried. For instance, strava includes the lifts in the distance even if synced from SA to strava, although SA itself calculates downhill distance.
To sum it up, I’m still more satisfied with movescount in spite of the manual editing I need to do. -
@halajos The S9 does all of what you want without an app and on MC has the appropriate downhill data. This is still not implemented in SA yet but will be I am sure. I typically use a custom Alpine Ski mode for my touring as I really like having all of the downhill data on my watch. Below is a screenshot for customization of the sport mode for Downhill laps in SA for the Spartan/S9. I think you would really like this.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Skiing relies on an app, in order to track runs, and stats about them. Without the app, there’s no run-counting, and I think it may count “uphill time” the same as downhill.
XC or Backcountry skiing is probably fine, but I do far less of those, nowadays.
@Brad_Olwin I own the Ambit2 and Ambit 3 Peak, and they work, just fine.
Yeah, the S9 is a great watch, I’m sure (although the OHR accuracy seems particularly bad, from what I’ve read), but it’s $5-700 that I don’t want/need to spend.
I get that “upgrades are awesome”, when a user “chooses” that path, either due to a product dying (battery, damage, other failure), or wanting new functionality. I’m not in either of these positions right now, but I’m about to be “forced” into one of some sort.If I could take my Ambit2, and turn it into an S9, say at a 50% discount or similar, THEN it would make sense, mostly, and be more workable in the budget.
Instead, when they disable apps, I’m more or less “done”, I’ll probably be looking for a really cheap Garmin to track my ski days, unfortunately; ultimately probably the end of my “Suunto experience” too…
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@Brad_Olwin said in Is there anyy Official info how to move all data from Movescount to Suunto App?:
@halajos The S9 does all of what you want without an app and on MC has the appropriate downhill data. This is still not implemented in SA yet but will be I am sure. I typically use a custom Alpine Ski mode for my touring as I really like having all of the downhill data on my watch. Below is a screenshot for customization of the sport mode for Downhill laps in SA for the Spartan/S9. I think you would really like this.
@Brad_Olwin So, I fired up the (latest, checked before starting) SA today, first time in a while, and I sure don’t see any of the settings, per-sport?
Were these screenshots from the app?I’d be perfectly happy if I can enable the same, in DH skiing, on my Ambit3, but I don’t think this is slated to ever work, on the SA?
Or am I just missing something?Thanks.
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@pgrey Those screenshots are for the S9, just wanted to show you what the S9 does without apps. Most of the apps I used on my A3P are part of the S9 firmware. Another big plus for me with the S9 is distance on routes to next WP or End is route based and accurate, not as the “crow flies” on the Ambit series. Perhaps Suunto will do “something” for loyal customers, they did for me when I sent in a T6c to be repaired. It was not repairable and I was sent a substantial discount code for a new watch (30%).
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@Brad_Olwin Yeah, the S9 is a nice watch, but I don’t have the disposable funds for one right now, and I have a “perfectly working ecosystem”, with my Ambit3/Ambit2.
It’s just a bit bizarre to me, that they’re still advertising/selling the Ambit3, including for sports like skiing (I checked), when they seem to be planning on disabling this, very soon.I can’t even figure out how to change sports right now, via the SA, that interface doesn’t even seem to exist, probably because I have an Ambit?
I want a web interface though, either way, so I’m looking around at used Fenix 5’s and such, and plan on (trying to anyway) selling my 2/3 in the next couple of months.
I figure this is a better option now, given that there’s no response from Suunto, for any of this (activities that require apps, web-interface, “hobbled” SA for an Ambit3, etc), rather than wait for things to spiral anymore (and for resale to bottom-out).Obviously, any major manufacturer could nuke the same functionality, but it’s sort of the “devil you know” type of deal, really.
It’s knd of “odd” really, my old Vector, from 1998, is essentially going to “outlive” my Ambit2 and 3, it’s still very functional for backpacking and such.
I did find this kind of interesting though, given that apparently they’re planning on “nuking” about 45% of their current user base (assuming almost everyone uploads, of course): https://forum.suunto.com/topic/1773/sample-set-movescount-com-uploads-jan-15-by-device-family/2
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if not in china, through sportstracker is the best choice
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos - This message really saves my day. Since MovesCount platform has been way more advanced and only place to communicate to at least heiaheia, I have been forced to sync to both MC and SA since January. Worst that could have happened would have been to get all spring as duplicates. Thank you!
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As I didn’t follow the whole discussion, what does the " full sync" from movescount to SA mean? I’m currently syncing to both and still use my location (for indorr moves), tags, descriptions at movescount only.
When I sync all to SA from movescount, is this ending up in a merge (so tags, desc, … is added) or do I need to delete all data in SA first? -
@gest83 Right now all we know here is what is to be found on the Suunto website here: https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Content-pages/digital-service-transition/
And I quote:
Which data will be transferred?
The data transfer includes your Moves and the associated exercise data including images and tags.Please note, Suunto app may not yet be displaying all exercise data, tables and graphs coming from Movescount. We are continuously enhancing Suunto app with the most relevant features for the entire community.
The data transfer does not include:
Personal information including body metrics
- Suunto 9 and Spartans: Your personal information will be synchronized to Suunto app once you connect your watch with the app.
- Ambit3 and Traverse watches: Currently it is not possible to synchronize personal information to Suunto app or edit the information in the app.
Routes - Suunto 9 and Spartans & Suunto app for Android: Routes stored on your Suunto watch will be synchronized to Suunto app for Android once you connect your watch with the app.
- You can manually export all our routes from Movescount and import them to Suunto app.
POIs
Suunto Movies
To create videos of your trainings, we recently introduced a partnership with Relive
Groups you belong to
They will not be available in Suunto app, but with our connected partner services there are many opportunities to join other groups like e.g. SuuntoRun on Strava
Events that you are attending
Training programs
They will not be available in Suunto app, but with our connected partner services there are many opportunities to use training programs like e.g. TrainingPeaks, Strava, or other.
Suunto Apps for your watch created by the Movescount community
Device settings
Please note that Suunto app does not display POIs as separate feature or as part of a route.
Please know that you can export your personal information, POIs, routes and Move data in according, transferable formats (.GPX and .FIT files respectively) from Movescount under Settings > Export > Download all your data. Please note that it is not possible to import part of this data to Suunto app yet.
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@jthomi thanks, I’ve read the statement but somehow must have missed the part with tags…
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Is there anyy Official info how to move all data from Movescount to Suunto App?:
Hi the data transition starts may. You will be able to connect MC to SA and get your data in the SA logbook so no need to panic. If you already have some moves only on SA and some moves only on MC those will be merged.
Hello Dimitrios, is there a update regarding the moves data migration / merge to SA? thank you
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The data move was stated to be staged starting from mid-may, it’s already mid-june and it is not yet avalaible. Anybody knows whether there’s delay or any other reason ?
I have a spartan trainer if it might change something. -
@martin
In fact it is staged (split in stages) … some already got the notification (eg. a friend) and some others no (eg. me)
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@sartoric I got all of my moves from MC web to Suunto app, by conecting MC web to Sports Tracer. The transfer took 2-3 days to succseed. I have Ambit 3 peak
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@KnutB Well that’s not the process we are taking about. We talk about SA “auto” sync (connecting MC)
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@sartoric I know. But since all I had in MC is now coming over to the Suunto app, I am happy. Sync or not synced
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@KnutB
what about your elevation graphs… do they have gaps?
And how far back did MC sync to Sports Tracker?
I tried that too and noticed it’s only going back to beginning 2018…living sideways
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@KnutB Sports Tracker won’t import all the data Movescount has, while the «automatic» MC to SA will, so it’s already been advised to avoid the MC > ST import… that said, you might just be fine with what data was pulled from MC to ST, in which case it’s all good for you !
