Open source Movescount web
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I would suggest that Suunto at least make the USB Protocol used for communication between PC and the Ambit2 watch open source.
That way I could write my own software to maintain routes, settings, etc. for my Ambit2 (e.g. participate in the openambit project and extend its functionality).
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@mfischer01 See openambit
One issue that was mentioned as being potentially problematic is the fact that activities “manually uploaded” to Strava aren’t (always) eligible for challenges, contests etc. So the issue extends beyond simply getting the files off the Ambit2 - for which I believe openambit already provides a solution - but rather getting them into Stava and other services via the API so they’re not considered as being manually uploaded.
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@tcdev Did you read my post? I mentioned openambit…
It shouldn’t be a problem to extend openambit so that it uploads directly to strava or others if there is a documented api.
The problem is that openambit only READS data from the device. I cannot be used to push routes, settings, etc. to the watch. Therefore the USB protocol should be published open source so that we can add that functionality to openambit.
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@mfischer01 said in Open source Movescount web:
The problem is that openambit only READS data from the device. I cannot be used to push routes, settings, etc. to the watch. Therefore the USB protocol should be published open source so that we can add that functionality to openambit.
This is not quite true. There hasn’t been tagged releases for a long time, so you might want to check out master & pull requests on github. Though it doesn’t change the fact that there might be few holes in openambit implementation. All intellectual property donations, be it source code or official documentation, would be highly appreciated.
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@mfischer01 Duly noted. This forum isn’t the best for keeping track of threads, sorry.
DCRainmaker seems somewhat optimistic that all hope is not lost for the Ambit2 (and presumably other devices) and that Suunto will eventually come to the party. I have my fingers crossed.
I’d certainly be interested in being part of the effort to RE/implement an opensource solution that extends openambit if something gathers momentum. As an electronics design and embedded s/w engineer with experience in reverse-engineering and USB protocols/programming I’m not entirely ignorant of what might be required.
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@Jouko-from-Suunto
The move is a joke - I have duplicates in my system, sync is VERY slow. MC connected well in the past with Sports_Tracker and the Suunto skin on Sorts-Tracker is just a skin but with less function. My view is open source the data down load and keep to making watches and free us from the OEM chain.
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@Jouko-from-Suunto said in Open source Movescount web:
Even if the code would be good enough to be open sourced (not going to give my opinion if it is pretty or not) it would be really, really difficult to get the cost of the required servers covered by open community
Suunto still needs servers to host Suunto Cloud API, plus whatever private backend API that is currently used by Suunto App. And there is already a web server to show a view of activity as a web page (when sharing an activity from the app a link to that activity is generated and can be viewed in a web browser). Movescount could be moved on the same servers and changed to use the same backend, so the server cost of going through Movescount wouldn’t be much higher vs. Suunto App clients going through the cloud API.
The only difference I can see that the app can cache some data locally and reduce load on the server, but modern web sites can do some caching on client machines too. Look at Elevate (Stravistix) extension for Strava - it caches a lot of data which allows it to be very fast with multi-year data.
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@silentvoyager There’s a trick to bringing up that Suunto app web page of an activity that doesn’t involve sharing an activity in the app.
In your desktop web browser, log into sports-tracker.com. Then navigate to any activity of yours that you want to see the Suunto app web page for. Once you’re on the SportsTracker web page for your activity, replace “www.sports-tracker.com” in the address bar with “app.suunto.com” and hit enter. And boom, there it is.
SportsTracker and Suunto app web pages use exactly the same URL naming system for every workout: /workout/username/gobbledygook. They’re identical, and you just have to change the start of the URL. -
Oh, thats really interesting! And there are correct elevation data on the link with app.suunto.com instead on the sports-tracker site we have 0/0 for elevation data…
@ianshowalter said in Open source Movescount web:
@silentvoyager There’s a trick to bringing up that Suunto app web page of an activity that doesn’t involve sharing an activity in the app.
In your desktop web browser, log into sports-tracker.com. Then navigate to any activity of yours that you want to see the Suunto app web page for. Once you’re on the SportsTracker web page for your activity, replace “sports-tracker.com” in the address bar with “app.suunto.com” and hit enter. And boom, there it is.
SportsTracker and Suunto app web pages use exactly the same URL naming system for every workout: /workout/username/gobbledygook. They’re identical, and you just have to change the start of the URL. -
@mfischer01 Yes, I want that as well (as software developer, I could do sort-out something)
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos any news about this? Any consideration from Suunto to “open” the usb protocols for openambit?
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@André-Faria that would be cool
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@TELE-HO we’ll keep the forum “spammer free”.
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I think we should rename this thread… “open source” seems to attract spammers like the shit stake flies
