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      runomatic Silver Members @jannis
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      @jannis That’s a pretty generalised view you’re posting about the Suunto. As I mentioned above, it works for me – just as accurately as it did with my Garmin Epix back then.
      And I ask myself: what’s wrong with resources rising again during the day, even if I don’t take a nap? When I’m sitting relaxed on the sofa, it’s definitely restorative. 😉

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        2b2bff Silver Members @runomatic
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        @runomatic said in Vertical 2 resources:

        just as accurately as it did with my Garmin Epix

        Race S user here, Resources work ok, but my Epix Pro is another level…
        I drank alcohol the other day and Garmin Body battery showed stress well into my sleep time. Real rest started about two hours into my sleep.
        Race S has not bothered about this. Resources started to increase steadily about 21:00 as Garmins body battery was still declining. Body battery started to increase shortly before midnight…

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          runomatic Silver Members @2b2bff
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          @2b2bff I actually miss the stress measurement feature on the Suunto too. However, the Epix is so uncomfortable to wear while sleeping that I don’t miss it much.

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            PetrMisek @runomatic
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            @runomatic Snímek obrazovky 2025-12-10 v 7.05.02.png

            I went cross-country skiing for 2 hours. Average HR for 2 hours was 149bpm (H10 strap). Resources went down pretty quickly (finally 😀 ) but i don´t understand red stripe - under load, this was 45 minutes after activity and it is bigger than blue one before it, so resources are going up when I am under load?? Strange

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              jannis Bronze Member @PetrMisek
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              @PetrMisek But if you look, the graph perfectly shows the problem. One could think, not knowing, that you slept from midnight until 5 PM the next day. It is not helpful at all. Also, why does the axis show 120 percent? Is this another bug by Suunto? And then again, right after the activity, there is a rapid rise in the resources.

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                masi0 @jannis
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                Is SV2 or R2 uses HRV to calculate resources?

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                  Manuel Extreme @masi0
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                  @masi0 Yes. In the Suunto app, if you scroll below the graph, there’s a full explanation of what you’re seeing and how resources are measured.

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                    Manuel Extreme @PetrMisek
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                    @PetrMisek If you swipe across the graph, the app shows you the legend for each bar. Red indicates very high stress.

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                      masi0 @Manuel Extreme
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                      @Manuel-Extreme In the night yes, but not during the day.

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                        Manuel Extreme @masi0
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                        @masi0 From in-app documentation, there’s no clear distinction between daytime and nighttime HRV measurement.
                        What is explicitly described is how “resources” are calculated:
                        Active state: recovery time from activities reflects recovery needs. Longer recovery times indicate faster depletion of resources.
                        Inactive state: HRV is used to assess autonomic balance. Higher HRV indicates more available resources, while lower HRV indicates reduced resources. Metrics like RMSSD, stress index, SDNN, together with heart rate, are used to evaluate stress levels.
                        So the focus is not on when HRV is measured, but on how it is used within the model.

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                          maszop Bronze Member @Manuel Extreme
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                          @Manuel-Extreme HRV is only measured during the sleep portion of the day. It’s not measured during the day, which wouldn’t make much sense anyway.

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                            Manuel Extreme @maszop
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                            @maszop Are you saying that based on inference, or because you have the specifications?

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                              maszop Bronze Member @Manuel Extreme
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                              @Manuel-Extreme said in Vertical 2 resources:

                              @maszop Are you saying that based on inference, or because you have the specifications?

                              “Suunto Race, Suunto Race S, Suunto Vertical, Suunto Ocean and Suunto 9 Peak Pro GPS watches can track your HRV during your sleep. Nighttime measurement is a reliable and easy way to gather comparable HRV data.”

                              https://www.suunto.com/en-ie/sports/News-Articles-container-page/how-to-use-hrv-to-optimize-your-recovery/

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                                Squirrel Silver Members @maszop
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                                Looks like this debate is going nowhere. @maszop in the picture above, you show HRV widget that shows average HRV during sleep specifically. But it does not disprove that 24 hour HRV measurement is part of the data stream used for continuous Resources calculation. So better arguments are needed. Or better yet, someone from Suunto who knows what they are talking about regarding this, to set the record straight.

                                @masi0 said in Vertical 2 resources:

                                In the night yes, but not during the day.

                                Same goes for this claim. Provide more details, or is this just an assumption?

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