So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?
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@Prenj the other day was just thinking the same… would be possible for Suunto to make route/POI transfer from Suunto app to Movescount so with SuuntoLink one can transfer over to the watch. Ideally would be that Suunto app could sync Movescount stuff (route/POI and settings) with the Ambit/Traverse family, just like SuuntoLink does (and Movescount app did) with no UI just background work.
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@andrasveres Yes, that full syncing capability is just what I have been asking for in feature request (linked below). My understanding is that they have chosen to strip this away from ambit3 to create bigger gap between a3p and Suunto 9, to differentiate. Because if you put features side by side, it could be pretty tough to defend the price difference between those two watches. So A3P is now little less connected than it used to be. They basically downgraded it almost to Ambit2.
Middle ground could be letting Ambit users use Suunto app even for routes, because they are not properly maintaining this feature in Movescount web for almost a year now and I really doubt this will suddenly be changed at some point. On the other hand, Suunto app is being actively developed and is getting better. Plotaroute would be a decent replacement for route creator in Movescount, probably even better one than Movescount. So why not? Keep things simple and let people enjoy even these watches they now call “legacy watches” (that one I will never understand).
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@Prenj that is not correct. its not stripped to create a bigger gap.
Actually if you are on iOS we can pm.
I have multiple times asked in this forum (not you) to not jump into assumptions.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@Prenj that is not correct. its not stripped to create a bigger gap.
Actually if you are on iOS we can pm.
I have multiple times asked in this forum (not you) to not jump into assumptions.
OK, that was just my understanding how thing are going. I would be really happy to see some progress in Suunto app for A3P although I’m not actively using my a3p anymore mostly because of all the shortcomings.
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@Prenj said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@Prenj that is not correct. its not stripped to create a bigger gap.
Actually if you are on iOS we can pm.
I have multiple times asked in this forum (not you) to not jump into assumptions.
OK, that was just my understanding how thing are going. I would be really happy to see some progress in Suunto app for A3P although I’m not actively using my a3p anymore mostly because of all the shortcomings.
As Romain said in the video about suunto transition, the strategy of suunto is to:
Invest in the “platform” instead of new watch every 6 months
Focus on doing good instead of doing everythingSo maybe we will have surprises.
But for sure there must be priorities, I believe first having best experience for current products, develop new ones and maybe for last to support older ones.
I believe it is normal.
Let’s see, a lot has changed since the initial statement, so… -
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
Actually if you are on iOS we can pm.
Very mysterious. Could be about technical barrier or a pleasant surprise.
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@andrasveres said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
Actually if you are on iOS we can pm.
Very mysterious. Could be about technical barrier or a pleasant surprise.
What about both?
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@André-Faria Surprisingly pleasant technical barrier? Nah!
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@andrasveres said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@André-Faria Surprisingly pleasant technical barrier? Nah!
A pleasant surprise, along with a “technical” barrier
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
this survey should not be there. MC is closing in a few weeks.
Now we have dates
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@André-Faria Thanks for that.
I wonder what “Routes still available” means. And what, if any, future for POIs.
Was there detail “below”?
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@Fenr1r said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@André-Faria Thanks for that.
I wonder what “Routes still available” means. And what, if any, future for POIs.
Was there detail “below”?
you can check here https://www.suunto.com/en-be/Content-pages/suuntos-digital-services/
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@Prenj Yes, you’re right, I must have been looking at an imported route. There is no elevation data for a route created in Movescount.
I’ve always been impressed by the accuracy with which my Traverse tracks Movescount routes on the ground. But if they’re not maintaining it then maybe it’s time to move onto an alternative route creator.
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@David-Young said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@Prenj Yes, you’re right, I must have been looking at an imported route. There is no elevation data for a route created in Movescount.
I’ve always been impressed by the accuracy with which my Traverse tracks Movescount routes on the ground. But if they’re not maintaining it then maybe it’s time to move onto an alternative route creator.
what in “routes still available” is so difficult to understand?
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@Egika It can mean:
- A map on which to create & view routes
- An account library of prior MC-created/imported/move-conversion routes
- A simple function to transfer imported routes to the watch
No. 3 seems the minimum to fit the statement
Not necessarily No.2. And No.1 has been hobbled for some time.
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Hello,
Does anybody know if Suunto custom apps data is now synced into Suunto app for Ambit/Traverse watches ?
Thanks.
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@sebchastang
I would hazard a guess and say no, why: I gave my A3PS to a good friend and he uses it as I set it up (with Ambit apps) and none of the values recorded are available in SA. -
Thanks for your feedback TELE-HO!
I knew it wasn’t supported few month ago but I 've been hoping SA would be improved to support it since MC shutdown is now scheduled on February 9 2021. I’m sad to lose those data -
@sebchastang
I am not sure if this will be left out in SA integration but I doubt it. Ambit apps where MC and Ambit specific. I think (?!) it’s still possible to set them up in “what’s left of MC” in a few days. Since it’s not possible to set them up with SA it might me a feature that is going to be obsolete some time in the future -
@TELE-HO
I also hope it would still be possible to set up the apps in MC but I’m interested in the data of those apps. It’s currently only supported through moveslink2 <-> mouvescount.com.
SuuntoLink doesn’t transfer suunto apps logs and nothing seems to be planed to support it. -
@sebchastang
I assume this is the way Suunto wants users to upgrade.
I know the watches aren’t inexpensive by far! I did the step while I was bored sitting at home recovering from getting a bunch of screws in my elbow… I accounted it as entertainment expens back then and I do not regret it.
While I enjoy the newer Suunto watches, I absolutely understand everyone who would like to stick to their older models. I also think it is a question of how green a company wants to be… it is definitely also a waste of resources if you replace a 2-3 year old watch that would actually work easily another 2-3 years.
Just to mention, my wife upgraded to S7 recently as she wanted a swimming mode and a reliable OHR. I did the S9B upgrad 1.5 years ago. We both gave our Ambits to good friends/relatives for a second life and we would much appreciate if their Suunto experience is that great, that they might buy Suunto again one day, rather than buying any other brand because of disappointments now…
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@TELE-HO
Sure, I also would appreciate a S9B, but as my watch is still fully functional (no hardware or software issue) and it perfectly fits my needs, I don’t see why I should upgrade.
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@sebchastang said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
Hello,
Does anybody know if Suunto custom apps data is now synced into Suunto app for Ambit/Traverse watches ?
Thanks.
As far as I am aware, after contacting suunto support: apps data will not be synced to suunto app.
At least that is the current info/status.POIs
Routes
Training plans
Apps
Will continue on the movescount website.No workout creator available (was present on movescount iOS/android app)
Although a lot has been written, I guess in the end the transition is much better than it was in the beginning: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/01/suunto-announces-decommission-plans-for-movescount-platform-impacting-some-watches.html
For me it is ok, I will be enjoying my watch without worries.
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@André-Faria
I’ve had an app that simply calculated the ascent in m/min into m/h and I setup MC to show me the m/h value instead of the m/min value… it is a minor thing, I know. But it was so much better to read than the default m/min value… at least in the groups I discuss and the tour information I read, the unit is always m/h… in SA it is m/min again and not adjustable
in QS @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has set it up so you can select in the graph what unit you would like to see
…by the way, Dimitrios, did you check if it is possible to show in the overview the ascent rate for ascents only? that was another ambit app I used to use and it was great to see for specific (where applicable of course) climbs, how fast you were “climbs only”. -
@TELE-HO said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@André-Faria
I’ve had an app that simply calculated the ascent in m/min into m/h and I setup MC to show me the m/h value instead of the m/min value… it is a minor thing, I know. But it was so much better to read than the default m/min value… at least in the groups I discuss and the tour information I read, the unit is always m/h… in SA it is m/min again and not adjustable
in QS @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has set it up so you can select in the graph what unit you would like to see …by the way, Dimitrios, did you check if it is possible to show in the overview the ascent rate for ascents only? that was another ambit app I used to use and it was great to see for specific (where applicable of course) climbs, how fast you were “climbs only”.Did you send message to suunto support about the unit stuff?
We all have minor stuff that would like to see not going, or being implemented.
For me, considering the initial decision from Suunto, I am fine with the decisions made, at least I didn’t end with a paper weight.
Ok some features were removed, but thats life. Nothing is eternal.
At this point I think it is worthless to ask more features/implementations regarding the ambit/traverse line.
And all that can come is for sure a bonus.
But it is valuable that we turn our needs into feature requests for future app versions/watches or find a solution.
